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Old 06-23-2012, 05:53 PM   #1
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This recently started to happen.
When I start my car cold and go to put it in gear, I can't get it in gear. It's as if the clutch isn't fully disengaged.
I bled it today, no air came out, and I watched the slave actuate. When I put my clutch in which was about 20,000 miles ago (FM Level 1), I replaced the clutch master cylinder, the slave, and the line. I also adjusted the pedal.
The break-in period of my clutch went like this:
I finished the job on a Wednesday, and 2 days later I went to the dragstrip.
Think my clutch is SHOT? Or maybe I need to adjust the pedal some more?
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Old 06-23-2012, 07:13 PM   #2
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Try the pedal one more time following the fm instructions. If it was adjusted poorly to begin with, the friction material thickness may have depleted eonough to cause problems. Couldnt hurt to bleed again at same time.
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Old 06-23-2012, 07:34 PM   #3
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Adjust clutch pedal
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Old 06-23-2012, 08:35 PM   #4
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I know you said the slave was engaging but I'd take another good look at it. I've gone through probably 4 slaves since I got my car and it's always done exactly the same thing you describe. If you pull the little boot thing off and find some fluid inside, you know that's the issue.
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Clutch hydraulics and our master/slave cylinders in particular, are a dark art. After 20,000 miles don't worry about how you broke it in. Are there any clanks or squeals in the mechanism?
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So what was the deal
Todd

Also u dont have trans fluid leak do you?
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The deal is...I bled it, but I didn't adjust the pedal yet. I might do it tonight. There are also no trans fluid leaks. I remember I had to adjust the pedal when I first installed the clutch. I had to make it actuate sooner than it did when stock. I could hear my thriwout bearing chattering ever since in put that clutch in, but when I press the clutch just a bit, the chattering goes away. I'm pretty sure I gotta adjust it in some more, but why? And why now after its been in the car for this long?
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just to throw my experience in as well... I had this an issue getting into gear, especially when cold. It got worse slowly over time... until one day I couldn't get it in gear at all, and when I started the car with the trans in first gear (clutch pressed all the way in), the car rolled forward ever so slightly. Turned out to be the master cylinder. I did the slave at the same time for good measure.
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Hmmm...I did both slave and master and even put a FM braided line on it...After 20,000 miles, think they're defective?
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My master was basically seized up..it was obvious once I looked at it. I know with aftermarket clutch you can't expect the slave (especially) to last all that long, but I'm not sure how long is "all that long".... I haven't even put 20k miles so I'm not really sure. hard to say if that's your issue for sure, just throwing it out there.... i had similar issue and it was hydraulic system issue and just needed to be replaced. the check that pdextra posted above sounds like a good one
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The **** wears down n iver time u have to adjust ir. itbis jow it is son.
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Min, What in the Fock are you talking about? LOL.
I'll attempt to translate...
I think you said something like "in time, the (no idea what you meant) wears down, and in time you have to adjust it".
I was looking at my pedal adjustment rod...it looks like it's pretty far out already, like "I'm not sure I have a whole lot to adjust on it" pretty far out.
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Really check that soft line. I had this happen, and it was a baby little pin hole, that just looked like an oil spot on my clutch line. I about died trying to cross a road because the dang thing would not get back into gear.
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Like I said, I replaced the clutch line with an FM braided line when I did the slave and master.
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Min, What in the Fock are you talking about? LOL.
I'll attempt to translate...
I think you said something like "in time, the (no idea what you meant) wears down, and in time you have to adjust it".
I was looking at my pedal adjustment rod...it looks like it's pretty far out already, like "I'm not sure I have a whole lot to adjust on it" pretty far out.

God damn it todd.

In time, the clutch wears down and you have to adjust the pedal if you did a shizzy job of adjusting it in the first place.

***** on my ***. why
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Why ***** on your ***?
Because racecar???
No.
Because dyno fail car.
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Try "over time" fae, it'd be much more obvious as to what you're saying. "In time" makes me think of "in good time" which would be more like saying:

"Some time in the near future your clutch will wear and it'll need adjustment soon."

See what I mean? "In time" is more of a future tense phrase if you ask me.

Anyways, Todd, see if you can get it in gear by pumping the pedal a few times. If you can, it's almost definitely master or slave. If not, it's hopefully out of adjustment, if that doesn't fix it, it's either the clutch, or the throwout bearing.
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Try "over time" fae, it'd be much more obvious as to what you're saying. "In time" makes me think of "in good time" which would be more like saying:

"Some time in the near future your clutch will wear and it'll need adjustment soon."

See what I mean? "In time" is more of a future tense phrase if you ask me.

Anyways, Todd, see if you can get it in gear by pumping the pedal a few times. If you can, it's almost definitely master or slave. If not, it's hopefully out of adjustment, if that doesn't fix it, it's either the clutch, or the throwout bearing.

You say potato I say felchy.
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I turned the adjustment rod like 1/4 turn out and now it feels pretty good.
I am skeptical that this was the only issue...
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Bwo down a d worghip becau
I ar gisd

Ff says, "BOW DOWN AND WORSHUP FOR I AM UR GOD TODD"

Of coarse, I was correct.
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