amcnult1

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So I frankly really dig the NC miata style and was wondering a few things about them. It seems that people miata owners hate on the NC. My questions then are, are they comparable to a NA or NB in handling with simple suspension mods etc. Do they make a NC monster miata kit, and just all in all why people dont seem to like the NC miatas. Maybe i am way off but if you could feed me some knowledge i would appreciate it.

18psi

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search lazy.

dustinb

I would have answered with a better response if you put one more question mark in your subject. Since you did not meet the question mark quota, I will simply state that you need to do more research on your own. I will however throw you a few bones:
1. The NC is a completely different vehicle, for the most part from 1989 to 2005, the miata was largely unchanged.
2. When you say monster miata kit, are you referring to the monster miata kit that put the Ford 5 liter motor in? Because no, no they haven't.
3. It also sounds like you just want to do "simple suspension mods." Do you even know what you are trying to achieve by these mods? Understeer? Oversteer? Hella Flush? SWEET DRIFTING?
4. The NC is a perfectly good car. Something like the Super 20 makes me like life again.

amcnult1

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Thanks for input the Dustin. I have done some reading and all i see are opinions, (NC is better has more room, NB is better car and NC looks like tic tac, NA is best miata and NC is to refined...blah blah blah) I cant seem to find any reason for the why the NB and NA are better miatas, that was what i was getting at and failed to point out. As far as mods go, I know that NA and NBs transform from just fun car to flat out amazing winding road/low budget autoX cars with just shock, struts, frame bracers, swaybars, etc. So does an NC make a good low budget AutoX build? Other than the PRHT I dont know what the differences besides cosmetic are between the two.

P.S. thanks 18PSI for continuing to go thru and spam posts with useless information that clearly lets everyone know that your are the big sh*t around here. ur post are always so useful its a wonder people ever post anything anymore since you have graced this forum and this world with your vast knowledge, myself and anyone else who reads your posts are definitely more knowledgeable about...well anything since you are just such a huge help. Thanks for being a Douche.

viperormiata

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I never appreciated my NA more than after driving an NC

dustinb

I drove a 2006 NC shortly after they came out and thought the exact same thing. It just felt like an ordinary car, but honestly, I can see some of the appeal to them now. Power hard top, much newer chassis, lots of mods. But if I was to go out and build another miata right now it'd be a NB.

miata2fast

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You guys that have driven NCs and do not like it have to remember that most of you are spoiled in driving highly modified cars. We all are.

I test drove both the Mazdaspeed car back when they were new, and the NC miata and thought the same thing. I was not impressed. Then I realized I was not impressed in driving any bone stock car unless it was some factory monster.

Personally I love the NC Miata besides the fact that it is too slow for me. I know eventually I will get one. That car has a lot of potential.

18psi

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You ever stop to think that maybe you're the douche for literally not making a basic search about na vs nb vs nc? Or that maybe asking a vague question will get you a vague answer? Or that being a whiney entitled little bitch will probably not go over well on a forum full of men? Has any of those questions ever crossed your mind?

I would do a search, chew up the information, re-gurgitate it, and spoon feed it into your pouty little lips, except "let me google it for you" feature doesn't work on this work computer. Besides, that's all you're going to get on a forum anyway, OPINIONS. No one here has quantified results of instrumented testing of an NA vs NB vs NC. What the **** would you test anyway? Its all a matter of opinion.

But moving along: what was your question specifically? Are they superior/inferior from a performance standpoint only? Or a money standpoint? Or aftermarket backing? Orrrr........ Be specific. Maybe that will get you specific answers. Going from "light suspension mods", to "monster miata", to "which is better to make love to my man in"......

I know you probably don't care cause you're QQing like a little bitch, but here's my input anyway: they are too bloated, relatively expensive, engine bay cramped, mods are way more expensive to name a few reasons why people haven't warmed up to them yet.

sixshooter

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18psi's knee jerk reaction to any noob post is to try to slam his dick in the door. Pay it no mind.

Troy is right about being jaded by our modified cars. I drove a stock NA for a few blocks recently and hated it. HATED it.

nitrodann

No one will say that NC's arent capable, they just aren't the same thing.

they are big heavy and expensive to make them weapons.
End of story.

Also, 18, just chillax bro.

Dann

thenuge26

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The way I look at it: 2 of the models (NA and NB) have 16 years worth of cheap used parts, while the NC is a completely different car. Makes it pretty easy.

Go drive them OP, who gives a **** what we think. It's your car.

amcnult1

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Cool thanks for the replies, including you 18psi. the last sentence was very helpful and was exactly the OPINION i was looking for, to bad i had to read through ur very detailed and encouraging speech...lol, when i get done QQing i think we could be friends!

wittyworks

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Okay I actually just went from a NA to a NC, and I have the opposite opinion of most of these guys.

Background info: My NA miata was completely stock suspension wise, except for a racing beat front sway bar, mazdacomp motor mounts, and racing beat diff mounts on the torsen. I added lightness in various places, and turboed it multiple times. I absolutely loved that car, and as far as bang for your buck goes, I still think it is the best car in the world, because it's cheap. I can't imagine a better car to use as a mule to learn how to work on a car, how to turbo a car, or how to drive a car fast.

Why did I switch to a newer car? I was annoyed with almost everything in the NA. It was my daily driver, it rattled, it was loud, the seats were starting to tear, it leaked a little even though I got a new top, the suspension was making noises, I didn't have cruise control, I didn't have power windows, I didn't have power door locks, I didn't have AC, yada yada yada.

Why did I get a NC? I wanted a nicer daily driver to fix most of the above problems, and I was planning on just getting a loaded NB and then going all out with xida, built motor, efr and all that jazz. That all changed when I drove a stock NC right after driving a stock NB. I had also driven a stock S2K recently before these test drives. Talk about not liking a stock car, the NC just felt more refined in every way over the NB, and I loved it. I found a good deal on craigslist and snatched it up. 2006 Special edition with 80k miles for 10K. Thats pretty similar in price to some NB's that are for sale.

Now, xidas are supposed to transform the Miata for roughly 1800 dollars. I just got a used pair of Ohlins DFV for 1600, and I am expecting a huge improvement in the suspension. The stock NC suspension is truly pretty sloppy, and needs to be upgraded, just like the NA/NB.

Why do I think the NC is better? First of all, someone called it heavy. Its listed as 2400 lbs curb weight, roughly 300 lbs more than an NA. That extra weight in my opinion is worth the hugely upgraded interior, engine, and other parts on the car that are beefier. The engine in stock form is light years ahead of the BP, and the rest of the chassis is stiffer and stronger.

Yes it needs to be faster, thats why I'm turboing mine next summer . I like the NC better as an overall car primarily for daily driving. Drive both and see which you like better!

rleete

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I agree, except for the turboing part. Due to NY smog laws, to turbo would mean installing and uninstalling for inspection every year. No way I'm going through that.

So, I stick with NA and wrench on it, knowing I never have to worry about passing smog checks.

qax

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I remember seeing this:

What's the best $1000 mod for an NC?
An NA.

Vilko

Think about it this way. Mazda had milked the market dry. Every person who wanted a light, raw, real wheel drive convertable bought an na/nb. So why make the same car again?
They already had a market waiting for people who wanted one, but with more comfort, more room, etc. So the car is intentionally a bit plusher.

On top of that; less support, more complicated electronics, more expensive on parts and the car itself. If u want a more comfortable miata then Im sure the NC is great.