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Old 04-08-2010, 11:04 AM   #1
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Default need help figuring out if car has LSD

okay, i have been having trouble trying to figure out if the miata i am looking at has a factory LSD. the main reason i am having trouble is cause of something my friend told me(which was that its rare for a black interior car to have a lsd or something like that can't member exactly). anyways the car is a 96 black miata with black cloth(or whatever the hell it is for interior). it has the power options like steering,windows,mirrors,and cruise. i don't know if it had power locks or not, i am not familiar with these cars, so i had no clue where it is at if it did have one.
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Look at my built thread there's a link with a guideline. Also m.net has a spotters guide
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i have been on miata.net before and looked at them the one for NA car's is hard for me to decipher and then the other one makes it sound like it would but not 110%sure i am reading the other one right. so i figured i would ask just to be safe. since i do not have the money to put a LSD in it.
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Miata interiors are either Black or Tan, so i mean...


in '96 the torsen came on the: Popular Equipment Pack, Leather Package, 'R' package, and 'M' edition.

http://www.miata.net/faq/Miata90-97A3.pdf
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Wait, you mean my car is special edition?? it came with hot pink leather strap-ons seats and hello kitty decals on the head rest
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rofl...but i did not know that about the interiors. i am obviously new here and too miata's.
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i have been on miata.net before and looked at them the one for NA car's is hard for me to decipher and then the other one makes it sound like it would but not 110%sure i am reading the other one right. so i figured i would ask just to be safe. since i do not have the money to put a LSD in it.

Um....what?

http://www.miata.net/garage/vlsd.html

The top part of the page talks about the LSD in the 1.6L cars, which you dont need to read because you have 96. The bottom part talks about identifying a torsen.

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(Q)How do you identify Torsen's without dissasembly?

(A)The Torsen won't always turn both wheels when you turn the driveshaft, sometime if they are cold they will. One way is to take out the fill plug to see the Torsen gears which is hard to do because of the angle. Another way is to attempt to turn both half shafts in the same direction at the same time (tranny in neutral), can't be done with a Torsen. The foolproof way is to pull the stub axle on the type 1 or the drive axle on the type two. If you don't see a bar and can see directly thru the diff. it is a Torsen. If there is a bar, (spider gears) it's an open.

No bar=Torsen Bar = open or RX-7 clutch type

MazMart has noticed that the type 2 Torsen diffs were put into production during 3/1995. They are usually charactorized by the use of the single half shaft that goes directly into the diff housing instead of the prior stub shaft and flange mounting assembly.

(Q)Will a Torsen LSD fit in an open differential equipped 1994+ rear?

(A)Yes, the Torsen drops right in place of the open diff. No additional parts are needed unless you want to replace the halfshaft seals (always a good idea). The bearing are the same (last I checked the Torsen actually came with the bearings already installed). It is also unlikely that they will need a crush collar since they should be able realign the ring and pinion to it's original set with just the bearing backlash .
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Or you can just be smart, and call Mazda USA with the VIN and ask them.

http://www.mazdamotorsports.com/
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sneaky edit brain...but i am going to assume i was correct with thinking it does?
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wtf? just go to an empty parking lot and throw (or try to) a donut(s) in it.
if it does it, it has lsd. if it just spins one tire and sits there it doesn't.

also wondering why you say you don't know if it "had" power locks. why wouldn't it still have them if it did? are your doors missing or is it a salvaged car?

otherwise, like sparetire said, pull axles, see right thru (no bar) is what your looking for.
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wtf? just go to an empty parking lot and throw (or try to) a donut(s) in it.
if it does it, it has lsd. if it just spins one tire and sits there it doesn't.

also wondering why you say you don't know if it "had" power locks. why wouldn't it still have them if it did? are your doors missing or is it a salvaged car?

otherwise, like sparetire said, pull axles, see right thru (no bar) is what your looking for.
can't do any of that car's still at a dealer lot. i havn't bought it yet but was just making sure before i bought it, like i said before. so pulling the axles is a no go same with doing the donuts. since the dealer goes with me on the test drive.(since i am a young "kid")but like i said where are the power door controls then?
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You really need to learn to search better.

Basically, if the 96 has power mirrors then it has a torsen in it. Unless it's an automatic. The car you described is a PEP package.

http://www.miata.net/faq/america/1996.html
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You really need to learn to search better.

Basically, if the 96 has power mirrors then it has a torsen in it. Unless it's an automatic. The car you described is a PEP package.

http://www.miata.net/faq/america/1996.html
same 2 you.i was just reassuring my self. since 4k for me is alot of money.
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same 2 you.i was just reassuring my self. since 4k for me is alot of money.
How does he need to do better searching, if he answered your question??

This site is for ballerz only, if you cant hang I recommend you move your sorry broke *** to CR.net
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How does he need to do better searching, if he answered your question??

This site is for ballerz only, if you cant hang I recommend you move your sorry broke *** to CR.net
i made the cash for the car in less then 6 months just im a tight *** is all. but i was just wanting reassurance was all i basically knew the answer.
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but i do appreciate him answering it basically.
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i made the cash for the car in less then 6 months just im a tight *** is all. but i was just wanting reassurance was all i basically knew the answer.
So first youre broke, now you're a tight ***?? Make up your mind, or do we need Hustler up on this bitch
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So first youre broke, now you're a tight ***?? Make up your mind, or do we need Hustler up on this bitch
never claimed i was broke. just 4k would be the most i have spent on a car so far.
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Man stop giving the kid a hard time(btw I'm only saying this cause I'm in a good mood today, tommorrow I might come back to this threadand tell him to GTFO)
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Man stop giving the kid a hard time(btw I'm only saying this cause I'm in a good mood today, tommorrow I might come back to this threadand tell him to GTFO)
PMSing much
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