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Old Dec 9, 2009 | 08:36 AM
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On my initial turbo install I had a pretty bad time. It took much longer than I thought it would (weeks) and I ended up "notching" my frame rail a little too much to get my turbo in the car.

How the **** should I fix this?



The car hasn't folded in half yet and tire wear is ok so I think it's still straight.

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Old Dec 9, 2009 | 08:42 AM
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good god man! how big of a ****** turbo were you trying to put in?

id say cut out all the bad and weld in new!
Old Dec 9, 2009 | 08:45 AM
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Dear god! What did you do!? All you can do is cut out the mangled mess and weld some new metal over the hole.

What were you cutting with? A sledge hammer and a chisel?
Old Dec 9, 2009 | 08:51 AM
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Good god man!

I've done some ghetto **** and left it...but this takes the cake.

Clean up and refab...only way. Or you could just drill some holes and stitch it with zipties.
Old Dec 9, 2009 | 09:16 AM
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zip ties?
Old Dec 9, 2009 | 09:19 AM
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zip ties?
As long as you put more than one you should be fine.


But on a serious note, +1 on cut out the old, in with the new
Old Dec 9, 2009 | 09:22 AM
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Originally Posted by Braineack
zip ties?
See zoom2zoom complains about R pack lip on cr.net
Old Dec 9, 2009 | 09:25 AM
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(like wonton said) Clean it up with some straight cuts so you can weld in a piece of 1/8" or 3/16" angle iron (L) and couple of flat pieces on the end. MightMouse did something (the clean up part) very similar in his build.

Just wondering if you were embarrassed to post that photo?
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Old Dec 9, 2009 | 09:31 AM
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What about using soam foam like ITW Foamseal's Automotive Aftermarket Page or "great stuff". I don't have a welder.
Old Dec 9, 2009 | 09:34 AM
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You can't fix it without a welder. Your best bet is to buy a new car and try again. Or leave it alone and see if it breaks in half. If it does hopefully no one gets hurt. Without a welder, the "fix" would just be cosmetic, and you already posted that hack job on the internet.

Good God man!
Old Dec 9, 2009 | 09:39 AM
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Wow... This is why some of us folks say "it's $45 just to turn the welder on".
Old Dec 9, 2009 | 09:54 AM
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You can still clean up the mess with a grinder and some cutting wheels. Then use the same to cut some angle iron and the end pieces. Clean up all the edges to fresh metal. If you do the hard work, you'll keep the welder's work to a minimum. I can tell you right now that anybody who does this work for a living is going to charge you painfully well to clean up that mess. Now's your chance to "learn slowly" vs. being a "slow learner". Do all of the above and find somebody with a welder.
Old Dec 9, 2009 | 10:29 AM
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Holy hack job Batman!
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Old Dec 9, 2009 | 10:34 AM
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it's very mean to laugh at someone's bad mistake.

but also very easy.

get a different manifold maybe.
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I can't believe he'd post that and not expect to get laughed at. I'll give him all the credit in the world for having the ***** to post it- exactly the reason I gave him a proper solution. That said, I can't imagine there weren't any thoughts like, "Man I focking up my car" or "Good God I making a huge mess" while this was going down. That's a lot of metal to hack up in there, I'm sure it took some elbow grease. It's really not that much worse structurally if it were clean cuts - just needs to finish it up. Don't you have a welder y8s?
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Wow, I'm having trouble visualizing where in the engine bay that picture was taken. What a train wreck.

This is what happens you add booze, a sawzall and a sledge hammer to your list of turbo install tools. I'm just waiting for someone to make a fail poster about this.
Old Dec 9, 2009 | 11:12 AM
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/\ Yes, just needs to be cleaned up. No worries. Too far from me however.
But, on a good note; it takes examples like these sometimes for one to learn and see what can become from something. I know I've had some butcher sessions early on when tinkerin' with VW's back in the day. I didn't have the luxury of seeing someone's mistake and then taking from it. I had to butcher, then figure out how to make it better over time.
Old Dec 9, 2009 | 11:18 AM
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Originally Posted by jayc72
... make a fail poster about this.
Or a main page poster
Old Dec 9, 2009 | 11:21 AM
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Wow, I'm having trouble visualizing where in the engine bay that picture was taken. What a train wreck.
Next to the driver's side shock tower. This is typically what it looks like when you follow the directions of cutting and bending:

Old Dec 9, 2009 | 11:24 AM
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Might Mouse's fix is mostly a perfect fit- just follow the pics:
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