Are our internals horsepower limited or boost limited?
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15° minimum, ~15 psi @ tq peak
brainy i'm around 17-18 at 12psi. no we didn't push it until detonation, but adding more timing didn't make more power.
brainy i'm around 17-18 at 12psi. no we didn't push it until detonation, but adding more timing didn't make more power.
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Awesome ****, guys. That's what I wanted to hear. My goal is to have two maps, a normal 12psi 91 ****-water map and a 15, mabye even 17+psi map once I get a water injection setup. I probably won't push past 275rwhp or so until the motor is built, but I think I can hit that number even on a small T25 and big boost as long as I can keep the intake temps and detonation down (perfect use for WI).
yeah, that was my problem...I also had a 2° retard (i suck) so I was closer to 19-20°
right now my targets are 20° @ 180 kPa; 18° @ 210; and 16° @ 230
I was still making more power as I advanced it, but the returns were starting to become dimishing, my fuel was also way off, so it will probably be altered some. KnocksenseMS is 85% wired up, so I'll be able to make sure all is kosher and ready for my real dyno tuning session.
yeah, that was my problem...I also had a 2° retard (i suck) so I was closer to 19-20°
right now my targets are 20° @ 180 kPa; 18° @ 210; and 16° @ 230
I was still making more power as I advanced it, but the returns were starting to become dimishing, my fuel was also way off, so it will probably be altered some. KnocksenseMS is 85% wired up, so I'll be able to make sure all is kosher and ready for my real dyno tuning session.
right now my targets are 20° @ 180 kPa; 18° @ 210; and 16° @ 230
I was still making more power as I advanced it, but the returns were starting to become dimishing, my fuel was also way off, so it will probably be altered some. KnocksenseMS is 85% wired up, so I'll be able to make sure all is kosher and ready for my real dyno tuning session.
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From: Fake Virginia
That's OK, you can run 89 octane then.
should be in my "why i think timing is important thread" but here:

Ben's should be in his "I'm squirting" thread, should look similar.
I have yet to do much testing of this table as I'm not currently driving it untill I get my LC-1 back from innovative. Then I'm getting on a loaded dyno to do some comprehensive tuning. But as is at 12.5psi, I had no signs of knock and the power output seemed butt-dyno friendly.

Ben's should be in his "I'm squirting" thread, should look similar.
I have yet to do much testing of this table as I'm not currently driving it untill I get my LC-1 back from innovative. Then I'm getting on a loaded dyno to do some comprehensive tuning. But as is at 12.5psi, I had no signs of knock and the power output seemed butt-dyno friendly.
My map is close enough to brainy's. Why not run 14 deg?









