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Turblowdmiata 01-09-2013 01:40 AM

Please help!!!! Car runs too rich!
 
Picked up a turbo'd miata a few weeks ago. My Intake was looped around between the block and fans, afm didn't like that so I moved it with flexy intake tuning from orileys next too the master cylinders. After the first fire up my car wouldn't idle, so coworker popped open the afm told me I busted it tried fixing it and he broke it even more he patched it to get me home. Car ran super rich and wouldn't go over 2k... Picked up a new one today from a junk yard installed it car fired up and sounded good. Let it warm up and took it for a drive got food fired it up again and made a glubbing sound almost sounded cammed and all I could smell was fuel and car kept back firing (more than usual)

any one have any clue I'm confused and its my daily

thirdgen 01-09-2013 01:52 AM

Lean it out, skirt.

thirdgen 01-09-2013 01:54 AM

Or you could start by telling us what fuel management you're using. Or more detail about said car.

Turblowdmiata 01-09-2013 01:59 AM

Stock ecu pos narrow band 1.6 no fuel management running low boost till I have enough for a mega squirt and I don't drive it hard

thirdgen 01-09-2013 08:36 AM

Vacuum leaks??

Braineack 01-09-2013 08:59 AM


Originally Posted by Turblowdmiata (Post 966477)
any one have any clue I'm confused and its my daily

And this is why you dont fuck with a daily if you have no clue what the fuck you're doing.

dustinb 01-09-2013 10:40 AM

I'd suggest putting it back the way it was... Maybe you could post a before & after picture of your engine bay.

sixshooter 01-09-2013 01:22 PM

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Disconnect wastegate arm. What makes you think you can run ANY boost without fuel management? Do you even have an 02 clamp?


Renesis 18:12 "Fuckest thou not with thine daily driver when thou hast neither a vessel to piss into nor a window through which to cast it"


First engine management, then turbo.

You are doing it wrong.

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Turblowdmiata 01-09-2013 03:41 PM

Fair enough I'm saving for fuel management at the moment ran into some money issues and yes I'm aware not to fuck with my daily but I need it to be running right and don't know why it's running like it is

Miater 01-09-2013 04:12 PM

Flapper style meters need to be set up level. If the flapper has to over come gravity, not good. If gravity is holding it openish, not good.

Braineack 01-09-2013 04:56 PM

if you open up the afm and break it, not good.

Miater 01-09-2013 05:01 PM

If 1.6 not good either, but I'm sure you know that.

Also check timing, because 1.6

Turblowdmiata 01-09-2013 07:20 PM

Ill check the timing and the flapper could be why appreciate it new afm idled fine after first fire up then when I restarted it it turned to shit... It was a little dirty when I put it in also I try cleaning it an putting it back where it was see if it fixes anything

curly 01-09-2013 08:30 PM

If it sounds cammed or like a Subaru boxer engine, it's probably not running on all four cylinders, due to either the plugs or the injectors. This has nothing to do with the AFM, sounds like a different issue altogether.

Start by removing all the turbo stuff, replace when MS is installed and working.

Turblowdmiata 01-10-2013 12:55 AM

I'm starting to get the idea it's not a afm issue now haha I'm thinking the timing got messed up have to bring it to my work in the morning and check it out I don't think it's firing on all of the cylinders either I will probably get a ms in 4-6 weeks after I get the money for it I know I need one I don't drive the car hard or far live 4 miles from work and don't really go anywhere else

Appreciate the help guys hopefully I get it figure out soon

curly 01-10-2013 04:30 AM

Seriously, use a period or two. Don't care if you're "just" a mechanic.

Timing won't make it run on two cylinders I can't tell you blend your thoughts together you don't use periods if that's what you meant.

sixshooter 01-10-2013 07:40 AM

Does the crankshaft pulley wobble even slightly when it is running? There is a particular 1.6 problem with "short nose" crankshafts which can be serious. It also screws with your ignition timing.

Running 3-4lbs of boost under a full throttle with only stock fueling will cause lean detonation and crack piston rings/ringlands. Did you check the plugs for fouling? Compression test?

Turblowdmiata 01-10-2013 10:22 AM

I will check for fowling! Pretty sure compression is still good ill check that aswell!

I will gladly admit I'm no mechanic. I'm an 18 year old kid who works at a shop as a safety inspector. Dosnt mean I'm not afraid to get down and work on my car.

dustinb 01-10-2013 10:36 AM

Please post pic of your engine bay. Might be able to gleam some information from it. Also I see you are trying to buy injectors... don't think that's your problem at the moment.

Braineack 01-10-2013 10:53 AM


Originally Posted by dustinb (Post 966973)
Please post pic of your engine bay. Might be able to gleam some information from it. Also I see you are trying to buy injectors... don't think that's your problem at the moment.


I kinda feel bad about being an ass in this situation, but we really have so little to go on...


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