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Old 09-18-2012, 08:24 PM   #41
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I'll take that as a compliment! Its not a big deal to me if people don't like what I'm doing with the car.

Who knows. Maybe I will go turbo, maybe I wont. My next step is a Brain MS3 and getting used to tuning it. Then what happens next is a toss up. I like ITBs but know turbo is more worth the money. I'll just keep doing my thing
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I don't understand this.

I get that GarageStar wants their name out there, but are they really so ignorant to our preferences that they picked these particular cars? It's like they wanted ridicule.
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We all have to start somewhere. Sorry for misinterpreting the point of a build thread.

I hope to have a car like that one day. At 22 years old, paying my way through college, and working a part time job; I think I'm doing pretty well for myself
You really need to get better at life.
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If you're autocrossing wouldn't ITB's put you in a class where you'll get destroyed? If you're going to get bumped into an unlimited class why not just go turbo? I mean I can throw together a low boost/awesome response kit for a couple bucks versus spending boatloads of money on ITB's...
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If you're autocrossing wouldn't ITB's put you in a class where you'll get destroyed? If you're going to get bumped into an unlimited class why not just go turbo? I mean I can throw together a low boost/awesome response kit for a couple bucks versus spending boatloads of money on ITB's...
I briefly looked at the link he posted and there are like, 2 other drivers in his class

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I have owned this car since April of 2011 and have competed in 12 autocrosses with the Dixie Region of the SCCA. I've competed in C Stock, STR and CSP and come away with seven 1st place, two 2nd place and three 3rd place finishes.
12 autocrosses, 7 x 1st, 2 x 2nd and 3 x 3rd
7 + 2 + 3 = 12.

So yeah.

Anyways, OP, we're just lubing you up for the rock bottom bitch you're going to be until you get some boost in your sphincter.
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This kid is a dbag and I feel sorry for him.
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Wow....it's almost like the old MT is coming around. All we're missing is the old Hussie.

I remember the days of being broke and wanting to go fast...it really clouds your judgement on what is worth the time/money and what is not. One day, mark my words, you'll realize this. You'd be better off with a JRSC kit for half the cost of what you're planning, and I'm being serious here. If you are really itching for some power under you right foot compared to what you have now, it is the quickest, least expensive way to get positive manifold pressure. This "throttle response" you speak of is really nothing special at all...if you were anywhere near to Atlanta, I'd let you take my car for a quick spin and you'd quickly see what I am talking about. Ever driven a properly turbo'd Miata? Stock turbo MSMs don't count.

If you really want to test this whole "throttle response" stuff, hook a boost/vac gauge up to your IM and go for a drive. When you are at cruising speed, smack the pedal down and watch how long it takes for the needle to stop moving (just shy of the 0 atmosphere mark). If you really think you can decrease the time it takes for that to happen, then you'll be onto something. Do some people mistake "throttle response" with making more power? The two do not go hand in hand. I really am trying to be a bit nice here and tell you from expeirence.

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Like the military - break 'em down, then build them back up? Pics of gold tooth or fail - well, either way, gold = fail
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If you're autocrossing wouldn't ITB's put you in a class where you'll get destroyed? If you're going to get bumped into an unlimited class why not just go turbo? I mean I can throw together a low boost/awesome response kit for a couple bucks versus spending boatloads of money on ITB's...
He's already in CSP so ITBs are legal. But I'm 2 seconds slower than the owner of this CSP car and I'd still crush him with it.


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Old 09-19-2012, 09:46 AM   #51
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WTF is "Racekor"? Do you wear a "walking helmet"? Is your father proud of you?
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Thank you, Brain. My ultimate goals with ITBs are increased throttle response, decreased restriction over a single TB, and a properly designed plenum to deliver equal air to each TB


My NA shitbox motor will stay make more power, everywhere. There is already a formula for this type of glory, you're not following it.
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OP now that the gaping is outa the way, let me give you some advice:

The reason you got gangbanged is 1st of all because of your title: sponsored by garagestar? c'mon now. Ken is cool, I've met him in person, but they don't make anything but dress up items. People will ridicule you if you advertise a piece of sheet metal used mainly as a dressup item to "lower temperatures and get the car running cooler"....Same for most of your other "mods". They're cheap ebay/knockoff stuff that no one is impressed with, and the fact that you put it up as a "RACECAR BUILD" and "SPONSORED" is an embarrassment to you and garagestar.

You seem like you can take criticism at least somewhat decently, that's good. You'll need thick skin in here with a car like that. Keep at it and (I hope) reach your goals and turbo that miata as soon as possible.

Then get rid of all the bullshit gold foil/plating/whatever it is, cause your car looks like it can't decide on whether its in a gay rap music video or trying to compete in auto-x

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WTF is "Racekor"? Do you wear a "walking helmet"? Is your father proud of you?
Its clubricer/hipster/kewl guy talk. Its why I asked him if he meant to post this on clubretard
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Oh Doppelganger was right... the build thread here is WAY better.
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I'd like to increase my throttle response but I can't deal with boost lag. How can I make a lot of power AND have a linear powerband??
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I'd like to increase my throttle response but I can't deal with boost lag. How can I make a lot of power AND have a linear powerband??
BW EFR6258 with the EBC tuned to be linear.
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I'd like to increase my throttle response but I can't deal with boost lag. How can I make a lot of power AND have a linear powerband??
Holset HE351VE with an external controller mapped based on Megasquirt output for a completely flat "curve."

You can even use it for braking.
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Don't forget the high compression pistons...
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