General Miata Chat A place to talk about anything Miata

Rear brakes - balancing large fronts

Thread Tools
 
Search this Thread
 
Old 03-15-2011, 02:46 PM
  #21  
Newb
iTrader: (1)
 
allmybase's Avatar
 
Join Date: Apr 2009
Location: Blacksburg VA
Posts: 12
Total Cats: 0
Default

Maybe I'm missing something, but wouldn't a proportioning valve be a simpler way tune the bias?
allmybase is offline  
Old 03-15-2011, 02:47 PM
  #22  
Boost Czar
iTrader: (62)
 
Braineack's Avatar
 
Join Date: May 2005
Location: Chantilly, VA
Posts: 79,490
Total Cats: 4,079
Default

its can only do so much if you upgrade the front too much.
Braineack is offline  
Old 03-15-2011, 03:21 PM
  #23  
I'm Miserable!
 
sjmarcy's Avatar
 
Join Date: Feb 2010
Posts: 583
Total Cats: -1
Default

Originally Posted by allmybase
Maybe I'm missing something, but wouldn't a proportioning valve be a simpler way tune the bias?
Miatas, esp the early ones, use FWD sized rear brakes. You know how wrong wheel drive econoboxes are so nose-heavy? Well the back of such cars have next to no weight on them. Hence they use weak rear brake calipers when they use disc brakes all around. The inexpensive Miata inherited such calipers from the parts bin… SO…an adjustable prop valve can be set to full rear (no line pressure reduction) and still not eliminate excess front lock tendencies on many Miatas.

If race series rules and your wallet allow, it's best to set bias via hardware changes to get things close, with a tendency to rear lock first. And then fine tune with a prop valve. That way you can use pads with desirable behavior front and rear. And the bias is much more ideal during light AND heavy braking.

If you get bias decent during all out stops without using a prop valve, then it will be way too front biased the rest of the time. As in the fronts doing most of the work even when not braking very hard. This leads to excess wear and heat along with trail braking woes.
sjmarcy is offline  
Old 03-16-2011, 10:06 AM
  #24  
Newb
iTrader: (1)
 
allmybase's Avatar
 
Join Date: Apr 2009
Location: Blacksburg VA
Posts: 12
Total Cats: 0
Default

Ahh, thanks for the long explanation. Sadly none of this is very applicable to me ATM, but its still good to know.
allmybase is offline  
Old 03-18-2011, 05:56 AM
  #25  
Elite Member
Thread Starter
iTrader: (24)
 
kotomile's Avatar
 
Join Date: Oct 2006
Location: Monterey, CA
Posts: 7,537
Total Cats: 42
Default

Originally Posted by aznDragonX
Found some info regarding 929 MC installation:

http://robrobinette.com/mastercylinder929.htm
Not sure how much it matters, but it looks like that info is for an RX7.
kotomile is offline  
Old 03-21-2011, 05:42 PM
  #26  
Junior Member
iTrader: (5)
 
aznDragonX's Avatar
 
Join Date: May 2006
Location: San Francisco Bay area
Posts: 351
Total Cats: -1
Default

oops..my bad
aznDragonX is offline  
Old 07-04-2011, 08:52 PM
  #27  
Elite Member
iTrader: (11)
 
miatauser884's Avatar
 
Join Date: Feb 2009
Posts: 2,959
Total Cats: 11
Default

Hate to bring back an old topic, but has anyone done a comparison between the sport calipers with sport rotors vs the m-tuned/stock 1.8 caliper with sport rotor?

Is it really htis cheap to get sport calipers with the mounting bracket this cheap?

https://www.napaonline.com/Catalog/C...+50042+2042021

https://www.napaonline.com/Catalog/C...+50042+2042021

Hell, that's cheaper than buying the mtuned brackets to retrofit my current 1.8 calipers.

Am I missing something???
miatauser884 is offline  
Related Topics
Thread
Thread Starter
Forum
Replies
Last Post
Full_Tilt_Boogie
Build Threads
84
04-12-2021 04:21 PM
Frank_and_Beans
Supercharger Discussion
13
09-12-2016 08:17 PM
The Gleas
MEGAsquirt
3
10-01-2015 09:30 AM
mx592
Suspension, Brakes, Drivetrain
1
10-01-2015 12:45 AM



Quick Reply: Rear brakes - balancing large fronts



All times are GMT -4. The time now is 10:31 AM.