emilio700

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Yes, every SPM radiator we ship from now forward will be a slightly revised version that woks with NB A/C. You wouldn't be able to tell them apart, just a small change to fan and rad mounting points.

V8 application, unknown really. I have little personal experience with LSx builds. Maybe ping some of the active track guys with them.

tazswing

I am so looking forward to getting one. I hope the OE set-up can hold up to tuning the Megaquirt in the mean time. Still confused about which head gasket my 04; MSM has.

Back to the books.

scenturion

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edit: emilio says that this clearance issue only affects the first batch of radiators (shipped Jan '15), so future readers can ignore this advice.

[Mostly] installed mine tonight on an NB1 with PS and no AC (removed specifically to install the rad).

The rad brackets needed to be bent to fit, as the distance between the two studs was about 1/2" different than the stock radiator.

I ran into an issue where the PS cooling loop interfered with the driver's side of the radiator. Even pushing them out of the way, they pressed against the lower fitting.



From the front of the car:



I sent an email off to Emilio, who said I should slide the lines rearward in the bracket.

I sprayed the lines with PBlaster to lube them up and slid them rearward, but it didn't give enough clearance.

I tried to get as much slack as possible by moving the lines in the front two mounts towards the drivers side (left in the pictures).

I pushed the lines as far forward as possible with the reservoir unbolted to get maximum clearance. I also put a double-bend into the PS line bracket to move it as far up and to the driver's side as possible. The top line had plenty of clearance, but the bottom line still interfered, so I zip tied them together. I'll probably put a piece of rubber between the two of them before I finalize everything.



The lines directly contact the radiator bracket and probably eventually the outlet hose clamp, but I think it will be okay.

Alternatively, if you want to trim like 1/2" off the end of the two hoses where they connect to the hard lines, everything would fit much better. I didnt want to empty and refill the PS, so this is good enough for me.

(and of course, I now realize I didnt take a picture of the proper fit/clearance. oh well. when I finish the install I'll take a pic)

I used a stack of washers to shim the reservoir to keep the stress on the PS lines to a minimum.



It seems to fit now, but I'm going to swap the intake manifold before finishing the install so I don't dent any fins.

TheBandit

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Are the second shipment of rads still expected for March? If so, when did you plan to make them available for order/pre-order?

emilio700

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we will not be taking pre orders on the cross flow. They will just be in stock at some point and I do not have a precise ETA at this time. Sorry

tazswing

But once back in stock these will be the adjusted fitment ones that will allow an NB to keep the A/C?

I check your sight daily for it...this makes not purchasing some coilovers very difficult...

emilio700

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Yes

emilio700

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Back in stock!

ozbrock

Has this unit been modified to fit NBs with A/C now?

emilio700

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Yup

chiefmg

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I'm ready to buy one of these (got financial adviser approval and everything!) but in looking at the pictures it appears I may have clearance issues between the filler and my intercooler piping. Is there anyone here who has already installed it that has intercooler piping with the over the radiator configuration? If so how's the clearance (I don't have any problem with removing a pipe to fill the radiator, just want it clear in normal operation). I'm running a BRP MP62 if that helps any.

LownSlow616

I had the same fitment issues as Scenturion with the Ps lines. I just took the bracket off the chassis, slid it down the lines towards the front of the car and then fought the bracket back into place. I also added the zip tie to help squeeze the bottom line up towards the top line. Only other issues were the brackets holding my ac condenser. I just bent them forward.

LownSlow616

Looks great against the black garage star plate! No more cooling worries for me! Thanks 949!!!

Ian

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949 site list compatibility for these as "89-05 Except Mazdaspeed".

What specifically are the issues with the MSMs?

emilio700

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At lunch just now and , I don't recall the exact issue but it involves grinding, cutting and significant interference on a stock MSM. With oversize I/C or intake pipes, it's impossible. We do not recommend it either way. The CSF downflow we offer OTOH, is the way to go for the MSM. Drops right in.

julio

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The drivers side fill neck would hit the metal intercooler plumbing on the MSM. Not sure of any other issues. I've got an MSM and Supermiata Crossflow but haven't installed it yet. It's sitting in the basement waiting on TSE downpipe for EFR install.

emilio700

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Where is your reroute?

LownSlow616

Dont tempt me!! I think im going AN lines when I pull the engine this winter for its new con rods too. I also have future plans to ditch this rad for a speed factory tucked unit. Sorry!!

Satisaii

The fan mounts are not in the stock locations. The MSMs we have had here all had a one piece fan design that will not work with the relocated mounts. We did this to get a little better fitment and less cutting of the shrouds to clear filler/inlet/outlet.

afm

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"Tucked" and "radiator" are a terrifying combo.

Edit: if that's a little Honda-style unit, save the trouble and keep what you have! Adding reroute is cheaper than big AN lines, and it gives you the best insurance against major engine pain.