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Old 12-14-2009, 02:50 PM   #1
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Anyone out there have any experience with this hub? If so, thoughts/comments? If not, why should I buy the one you are using? This will be mated to a Sparco Monza or Sparco 345 wheel BTW... Must be quick release... Discuss.

Sweet Hub: http://www.sweetmfg.biz/products3.asp?edit_id=52
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Old 12-14-2009, 03:04 PM   #2
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I'm using the NRG quick release and have no complaints. I like how with the NRG qr the steering wheel only goes on one way. You always have the steering wheel aligned. There is also no play in it.
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I have a NRG-style one, a "knockoff" from fleabay that was about $40. Works great, mated up perfectly to the Sparco wheel and my adapter hub, and has zero play.
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I bought ltbmotorsport's qr hub. Fits and looks great, althouh aligning the wheel every time is annoying. I need to get around to painting a bolt on the hub and a bolt on the qr for aligent purposes. Other than that it's great.
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Thanks for the quick replies guys! Just the kind of information I was looking for. Keep the comments coming...
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I'm using the NRG quick release and have no complaints. I like how with the NRG qr the steering wheel only goes on one way. You always have the steering wheel aligned. There is also no play in it.
How much closer does the NRG QR hub bring the wheel out over factory? Thanks!
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Using the NRG hub adapter and NRG QR and a 35mm dish on the steering wheel puts the wheel a little closer to the driver than stock. I never measured it but I'd say about 1/4" closer.
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Thanks for the information tann3r... I actually got to look at and feel a Sweet unit last night on my buddy's Rock Crawler while we were pulling his engine. Disconnect was quick and simple. Also there was no play in the splines and I could line it up straight every single time. I guess I need to feel some other ones, but alas, there are not many people around here with them unfortunately. :(
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I have an ebay hub adapter and the skinny NRG. It rattles and has a little play. I don't have many other options for placement though.
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Thanks for the info hustler...

Just curious, does anyone out there know off the top of their head the diameter of the steering rack where the hub would mate to? Just trying to find out for sure if the Sweet would work or not without TOO MANY modifications. I can always add material to make it fit snug on the rack, but I can't imagine putting the rack in a lathe to remove material... Haha! This would be welded on BTW...
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Well... The girlfriend is ordering my steering wheel for me for Christmas, and the place offers the Sweet Hub as well... Might see if I can get a package deal price on the two items. I will figure out the install when it gets here. I have access to all the machining equipment needed to make it work regardless so why not... Thanks for all of the information guys and I will let you know how the install goes.
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I have a NRG-style one, a "knockoff" from fleabay that was about $40. Works great, mated up perfectly to the Sparco wheel and my adapter hub, and has zero play.
I have a NRG knockoff as well, probably the same one you have. Though I am still installing it, so far it looks great. It uses the bearing capture system as NRG, and only goes on one way. No backlash at all, looks stout. I'll reserve the thumbs-up until I have used it for awhile but I do not anticipate any issues.

The seller I got mine from was a douche so I recommend getting it from someone else other than epartsgogo. Now that I think about it, that name is kinda similar to another infamous ebay seller, ilovetacotaco.
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I have a NRG knockoff as well, probably the same one you have. Though I am still installing it, so far it looks great. It uses the bearing capture system as NRG, and only goes on one way. No backlash at all, looks stout. I'll reserve the thumbs-up until I have used it for awhile but I do not anticipate any issues.
I've had mine on the car for 6 months or so and it still feels like new. Mostly I'm curious if it will develop any slop in the bearing/lock mechanism after I depower my steering and start putting more force through the wheel.

BTW, if you try to put the wheel back on upside-down, not only will it not lock in, but your horn will sound. Startled myself a couple times that way after parking with the wheel turned to one side.
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I depowered my rack and run tons (6*) of caster. No play has developed.
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I have an ebay hub adapter and the skinny NRG. It rattles and has a little play. I don't have many other options for placement though.
NRG offers a "slim line" hub to go with their standard QR hubs. Their standard QR has 0 play in them. I've heard a few complaints about the slim line hubs not being loose. I've been running a NRG hub for a few years without a problem, but it was in my AE86. With a standard hub adapter and the QR Hub, my steering wheel is almost a little too close.

A friend of mine got the eBay knock off and its got a fair amount of play in it IMHO.
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how does the horn work on the NRG knockoffs? are there just contact points on the two parts that make up the quick release that continues the circuit into the steering wheel?
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how does the horn work on the NRG knockoffs? are there just contact points on the two parts that make up the quick release that continues the circuit into the steering wheel?
Pretty much. Those brass-lookin screws you see in the middle of the hub are the contact points. Two on the base and two inside the release part. They're kind of spring loaded, and it seems to be an okay system for making the connection since I've never had any problems with it.

The horn is just a switched ground BTW. On the base of the quick release there's a wire going to each of the brass screws. I connected one wire to the stock airbag/horn pigtail, and the other I crimped & soldered to a large ring terminal that fits onto the steering shaft and is held down by the steering wheel lock nut. It's a sufficient ground point.
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ok cool. I just ordered one earlier today so hopefully it will be in soon and I can give it a try. so it doesnt matter which wire is which then right? because no matter which one I actually wire to the horn button, the ground circuit will be complete when the button is depressed?
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so it doesnt matter which wire is which then right?
It might matter. I know if I accidentally try to attach my steering wheel 180* off, it activates my horn without the button being pushed. That suggests that one of the terminals in my quick release, or perhaps one of the contacts in the horn switch, is constitutively grounded. It's probably in the horn switch. I think one of the contacts is connected to the metal spring thingies that hold it to the wheel, which of course is metal and bolted through other metal to the steering shaft and therefore always grounded. So if your horn is always going off with the quick release hub connected, try swapping the two wires around.
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ok so this is my setup:
hub adapter with one red (positive) wire
base of quick release with positive and ground
removable part of quick release with positive and ground
horn

so im assuming i hook the red wire from the hub to the red wire on the base of the QR, then attach the black wire from the base to the steering shaft? then the red wire on the removable part of the QR to the horn then where do i attach the ground wire on the removable part to?

sorry if thats confusing

I have gotten the hub and QR but not the steering wheel yet, its in the mail, will there be two connectors on the steering wheel itself also?
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