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Old 09-17-2007, 11:10 PM   #1
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Go straight to page 3
http://forum.miata.net/vb/showthread...69#post2699369
where's the gun to head icon?
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Old 09-17-2007, 11:16 PM   #2
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Damn it, now that I droped 900 on a HT, you got one for sale for 700. Boy letme tell ya what...
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Old 09-18-2007, 12:08 AM   #3
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and they still love him cause he likes to make money and be nice about it.
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I agree pc pro is bull **** he would do better to run a fpr on his **** but for some reason you guys like electronic **** why
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I agree pc pro is bull **** he would do better to run a fpr on his **** but for some reason you guys like electronic **** why
there is a difference between "electronic ****" (PC Pro) and engine management (Link, MS, etc).
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how is this guy in business still?
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there is a difference between "electronic ****" (PC Pro) and engine management (Link, MS, etc).
pc pro = intercooler

link, ms, etc. = not an intercooler
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Old 09-18-2007, 11:04 AM   #8
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He has a CARB approved NB FI device... so he kinda cornered the market

He also seems pretty personable. I like his firey attitude, but hate is ignorance. Tom is the See/Hear/Speak No Evil Monkeys of Miata FI.

I don't see him pulling his head out of his *** regarding EM. It's probably NOT in his financial interest. I bet he makes a **** ton on $900 PCPro sets. Plus he has a timing card coming out (thank god) that he will make an additional killing off of. Imagine paying $1300 for a bunch of shitty piggy backs.
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If you just run it pig rich, it won't blow up. Its not hard to claim something is "tuned" when working with 2500rpm fuel tables.
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If you just run it pig rich, it won't blow up.
yeah it will, heard of cylinder wash?
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yeah it will, heard of cylinder wash?
I was attempting to use irony.
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pc pro = intercooler

link, ms, etc. = not an intercooler
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That ***** with your head.

Was a funny comment though.
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link, ms, etc. = not an intercooler
Yeap, Imagine what would happen if you put like 10 PC-Pro's together... Your engine would never even warm up!!!

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I agree pc pro is bull **** he would do better to run a fpr on his **** but for some reason you guys like electronic **** why
+1, i've had too many bad experiences with " **** of the electronic type", and what is engine wash? like a gasoline bomb under your hood?
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when the oil is washed away from the cylinder wall from gasoline.
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I don't know WTF you guys are talking about. The "auto-tune" feature is a dead issue as it seems Moss isn't able to get it to work for some reason.

As for the PC Pro/PB versus full EM, you guys are just as guilty of being pig-headed and ignorant as you accuse Tom of being. Not everyone needs or wants a full EM. Why is that so hard to understand?
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I don't know WTF you guys are talking about. The "auto-tune" feature is a dead issue as it seems Moss isn't able to get it to work for some reason.

As for the PC Pro/PB versus full EM, you guys are just as guilty of being pig-headed and ignorant as you accuse Tom of being. Not everyone needs or wants a full EM. Why is that so hard to understand?
Most of the comments against tom are from his recent comments with FM. Have you seen the FM/FFS thread over at m.net. He argued for 2 pages that PC PRO is an Intercooler.
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Most of the comments against tom are from his recent comments with FM. Have you seen the FM/FFS thread over at m.net. He argued for 2 pages that PC PRO is an Intercooler.
I didn't read the entire 2 pages, no.

I did read the part where he calls the "e-Cool" an intercooler. He's always maintained that the e-Cool, aka Evaporative Cooler IS an intercooler, but the PC Pro? That's a new one.
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I don't know WTF you guys are talking about. The "auto-tune" feature is a dead issue as it seems Moss isn't able to get it to work for some reason.

As for the PC Pro/PB versus full EM, you guys are just as guilty of being pig-headed and ignorant as you accuse Tom of being. Not everyone needs or wants a full EM. Why is that so hard to understand?
Yes, everyone needs full EM, even if they don't think they do. Piggy backs are duct tape. PC Pro is trash.
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