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Old 01-03-2008, 12:32 AM   #1
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Default Thinking about going V8, what are my parts worth?

This is just a feeler to see how much more money I need to bleed out of the wife before I start this project Right now I have a 99 with an FMII kit with Hydra. The whole car has 43k miles on it and I have maybe 500 miles with the turbo, new clutch, etc.

So here is what I would get rid of:
FMII kit with Hydra - software estimates 210 rwhp as it sits right now. Tune is not optimal yet, so I know there is more to be had
Stock engine - I haven't done anything to the internals of this at all but it is very low mileage for its age
5 speed transmission
ACT HD clutch, stock flywheel
4.30 Torsen Diff

Possibly some other parts, but I think I can keep just about everything else.
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Depends on the engine.
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I would estimate the following:

5 spd trans- $150-250
4.30 torsen w/ axles and drive shaft - $850-1100
ACT HD clutch (low mileage) - $150-200
99 engine - $750
FMII Hydra kit - $3500+
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Depends on the engine.
What would it depend on? I bought the car from the original owner in 2001 with 5003 miles on the odometer. Talk about a wasted lease... Anyway, the car has been in my care ever since. As I said, I haven't done anything to the performance of the car since this summer, other than adding a new muffler in 2005. The plugs and wires were changed with 30k maintenance. Anything else?
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What would it depend on? I bought the car from the original owner in 2001 with 5003 miles on the odometer. Talk about a wasted lease... Anyway, the car has been in my care ever since. As I said, I haven't done anything to the performance of the car since this summer, other than adding a new muffler in 2005. The plugs and wires were changed with 30k maintenance. Anything else?
Oh my bad. Your thread title is "what are my parts worth". I thought you wanted to know how much what youre planning to do will cost.
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heh, that is a different list. And it keeps growing. :(
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of course you are in San Pedro, I want a new trans/clutch on the east coast.
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you should sell the car all together and find a cheap NA.
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you should sell the car all together and find a cheap NA.
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or tune the one you got, cuz it will be a bunch faster when it's putting down 250-260 to the wheels. tune & get a new r&p
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or tune the one you got, cuz it will be a bunch faster when it's putting down 250-260 to the wheels. tune & get a new r&p
word. i run a stock 99 motor and am putting down some much better numbers than that. no desire to have a 200 lb heavier motor on the front of my car. and with that 4.30 rear it should get up and go even quicker.
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You may consider selling the hydra seperately.
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once im done with my turbo car, i want to buy a really cheap beat up NA and fabricate my own LS1 conversion kit, but this is scheduled for like 3 years from now...no sense in converting a turbo car to a V8, so just get you a cheap NA and build a V8

but to answer your question, you should be able to get about 5K-6K for your parts if you do decide to sell them
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This is just a feeler to see how much more money I need to bleed out of the wife before I start this project Right now I have a 99 with an FMII kit with Hydra. The whole car has 43k miles on it and I have maybe 500 miles with the turbo, new clutch, etc.

So here is what I would get rid of:
FMII kit with Hydra - software estimates 210 rwhp as it sits right now. Tune is not optimal yet, so I know there is more to be had
Stock engine - I haven't done anything to the internals of this at all but it is very low mileage for its age
5 speed transmission
ACT HD clutch, stock flywheel
4.30 Torsen Diff

Possibly some other parts, but I think I can keep just about everything else.
Why a V8, what makes the motor you have unsuitable for your goals?

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Why a V8, what makes the motor you have unsuitable for your goals?

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it's too hard to get 50,000,000 HP from a 1.8L... only formula 1 can pull that off.
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it's too hard to get 50,000,000 HP from a 1.8L... only formula 1 can pull that off.
i hope your kiddin, i know that you know that it can be done with 2-3 PcPro's
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i hope your kiddin, i know that you know that it can be done with 2-3 PcPro's
yeah, but with 3 PcPros you are dumping in so much intercooler... I mean fuel... that you might as well have a v8... you'd get better fuel economy.
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yeah, but with 3 PcPros you are dumping in so much intercooler... I mean fuel... that you might as well have a v8... you'd get better fuel economy.
not if you add two timing cards
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yeah, but with 3 PcPros you are dumping in so much intercooler... I mean fuel... that you might as well have a v8... you'd get better fuel economy.
3 PC Pros is waaaaay to much cooling! You will shatter the intake manifold when the freezing air enters the throttle body.

It's like pouring liquid nitrogen on a hot motor.
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Why a V8, what makes the motor you have unsuitable for your goals?

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It isn't unsuitable, I just am unhappy with the current results. The car drives ok, but just doesn't sound good. I feel like I have to kick it in the butt to get it to do anything and that isn't what I wanted the turbo to feel like. I know there is probably something wrong with the install right now because the turbo doesn't reach full boost until almost redline and something isn't preventing the kit from massive boost creep at the high end. I took a friend out today and the Hydra was cutting fuel around 6k rpm. This means I was getting 14psi instead of the 12 I want. ARGH!! I don't want to grenade my engine, but I am a logical guy and I can't seem to find a primer on "if your data log looks like _this_, adjust _this_ to fix it". I understand the principle of a boosted engine, I just am not fully sure how to get the Hydra to do what I want.

This was just a feeler to get an estimate of how much more it was going to cost me to get something stable and consistent. Quality features in a daily driver
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