track crew: describe your cooling system please
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track crew: describe your cooling system please
I've been reading lots of hype from miata.net today, so please fill out this form:
Car
NA or NB:
whp/wtq:
which turbo:
radiator brand and thickness:
intercooler size:
oil cooler?:
AC condenser?:
shroud on the front?:
undertray?:
coolant reroute?:
fan model:
which shroud?:
scooper?:
hood vent?:
mods to bumper?:
track stuff
track location:
ever overheated?:
highest ambient temp where overheating did not occur:
Car
NA or NB:
whp/wtq:
which turbo:
radiator brand and thickness:
intercooler size:
oil cooler?:
AC condenser?:
shroud on the front?:
undertray?:
coolant reroute?:
fan model:
which shroud?:
scooper?:
hood vent?:
mods to bumper?:
track stuff
track location:
ever overheated?:
highest ambient temp where overheating did not occur:
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I havenet tacked it yet, but I do drive hard and...
Car
NA
whp/wtq: 220 hp ish
which turbo: Garrett T3 off a mercadies
radiator brand and thickness: Stock
intercooler size: 18x12x3
oil cooler?: none
AC condenser?: yes
shroud on the front?: no
undertray?: hacked stock one
coolant reroute?: no
fan model: stock
which shroud?: none
scooper?: no
hood vent?: TSI's
mods to bumper?: None
The turbo is oil cooled only.
My coolent never goes over 210 degreesm in 95 degree weather of hard driving. Oil never goes over 225. Im sure a long track session would start to overheat it, but hard driving on the street doesent.
Car
NA
whp/wtq: 220 hp ish
which turbo: Garrett T3 off a mercadies
radiator brand and thickness: Stock
intercooler size: 18x12x3
oil cooler?: none
AC condenser?: yes
shroud on the front?: no
undertray?: hacked stock one
coolant reroute?: no
fan model: stock
which shroud?: none
scooper?: no
hood vent?: TSI's
mods to bumper?: None
The turbo is oil cooled only.
My coolent never goes over 210 degreesm in 95 degree weather of hard driving. Oil never goes over 225. Im sure a long track session would start to overheat it, but hard driving on the street doesent.
#3
Car
NA or NB: NA
whp/wtq: ~180ish
which turbo: Greddy tdo4h
radiator brand and thickness: stock auto brass
intercooler size: large starion
oil cooler?: yes, big one
AC condenser?: no
shroud on the front?: stock
undertray?: yes, most of it anyway
coolant reroute?: no
fan model: stock
which shroud?: stock
scooper?: no
hood vent?: yes, two slashes above the back side of the turbo right on what used to be the hot spot.
mods to bumper?: no
track stuff
track location: usually SMP Abq, NM 5000ft/sea
session length: anywhere between 5 minutes to an hour.
ever overheated?: Not while moving.
highest ambient temp where overheating did not occur: right around 102
NA or NB: NA
whp/wtq: ~180ish
which turbo: Greddy tdo4h
radiator brand and thickness: stock auto brass
intercooler size: large starion
oil cooler?: yes, big one
AC condenser?: no
shroud on the front?: stock
undertray?: yes, most of it anyway
coolant reroute?: no
fan model: stock
which shroud?: stock
scooper?: no
hood vent?: yes, two slashes above the back side of the turbo right on what used to be the hot spot.
mods to bumper?: no
track stuff
track location: usually SMP Abq, NM 5000ft/sea
session length: anywhere between 5 minutes to an hour.
ever overheated?: Not while moving.
highest ambient temp where overheating did not occur: right around 102
#5
Car
NA or NB:NA
whp/wtq:??Greddy@7 PSI
which turbo:Greddy
radiator brand and thickness: Generic Auto all metal replacement
intercooler size: Track Dog Racing standard size
oil cooler?:need one, will be purchased this month
AC condenser?:installed
shroud on the front?:Yes
undertray?:Yes
coolant reroute?:No, the BEGI non-race reroute will be purchased though
fan model:Stock
which shroud?:TDR standard
scooper?:
hood vent?:No
mods to bumper?:Rats Back racing Lip
track stuff
track location:MSR@Cresson and Harris Hill
ever overheated?:On >1 Hour Highway trips it'll start getting warm if over ~85-90
highest ambient temp where overheating did not occur:I don't recall, 100-105 in traffic with no overheating
I'm going to do the BEGI coolant reroute sometime this month http://www.bellengineering.net/produ...roducts_id=299
Every time I park the car during the summer, I can hear the radiator boiling over. I think the bottom of the manifold is heating the coolant line under it.
What is your setup going to be?
Chris
NA or NB:NA
whp/wtq:??Greddy@7 PSI
which turbo:Greddy
radiator brand and thickness: Generic Auto all metal replacement
intercooler size: Track Dog Racing standard size
oil cooler?:need one, will be purchased this month
AC condenser?:installed
shroud on the front?:Yes
undertray?:Yes
coolant reroute?:No, the BEGI non-race reroute will be purchased though
fan model:Stock
which shroud?:TDR standard
scooper?:
hood vent?:No
mods to bumper?:Rats Back racing Lip
track stuff
track location:MSR@Cresson and Harris Hill
ever overheated?:On >1 Hour Highway trips it'll start getting warm if over ~85-90
highest ambient temp where overheating did not occur:I don't recall, 100-105 in traffic with no overheating
I'm going to do the BEGI coolant reroute sometime this month http://www.bellengineering.net/produ...roducts_id=299
Every time I park the car during the summer, I can hear the radiator boiling over. I think the bottom of the manifold is heating the coolant line under it.
What is your setup going to be?
Chris
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Not sure. I have a 2" coolradiator.com piece, 24-row bar and plate oil cooler, and coolant reroute. I plan on shrouding the front and keeping the tray. I also have the begi scooper but don't want to use it because I'll have to cut my r-pack lip for it. I'm also considering hacking the bumper to get more air in there like the AIM-tuning car.
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I don't want to spend any more money, but I think my intercooler is too big and I'm going to be stuck hacking the bumper. I'm going to do some fiberglassing on the stock mouth to hopefully get some air around the intercooler and into the radiator, but seal everything off so the air is forced to go through both heat exchangers. I still haven't seen anyone do that other than aimtuning...who needed a larger opening than stock.
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I don't see how air coming through the intercooler is so super heated that it can't cool water in the radiator.
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I really wanted to go to Hallett and rape then spit on everyone this year. I told myself last year that it was a good, conservative goal.
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NA or NB: NA
whp/wtq: 200ish at 10psi(track boost)
which turbo: t25
radiator brand and thickness: godspeed (who ****** knows???)
intercooler size: srt4 (24x6x3??ish)
oil cooler?:NOPE
AC condenser?: NOPE
shroud on the front?:NOPE
undertray?:NOPE
coolant reroute?:NOPE
fan model:FAL 1600cfm
which shroud?:NOPE
scooper?:NOPE
hood vent?:NOPE
mods to bumper?NOPE:
track stuff
track location:Ft Sask. Alberta
ever overheated?:NOPE
highest ambient temp where overheating did not occur:30C(highest its been, can go higher)
whp/wtq: 200ish at 10psi(track boost)
which turbo: t25
radiator brand and thickness: godspeed (who ****** knows???)
intercooler size: srt4 (24x6x3??ish)
oil cooler?:NOPE
AC condenser?: NOPE
shroud on the front?:NOPE
undertray?:NOPE
coolant reroute?:NOPE
fan model:FAL 1600cfm
which shroud?:NOPE
scooper?:NOPE
hood vent?:NOPE
mods to bumper?NOPE:
track stuff
track location:Ft Sask. Alberta
ever overheated?:NOPE
highest ambient temp where overheating did not occur:30C(highest its been, can go higher)
#17
The culprits seem to be the A/C and lowprofile fans. Without the A/C condenser pumping heat into the radiator, it is fine at any speed. The lowprofile fans don't seem to do the job that the OEM ones did at low speeds and stopped..
#20
Last year on stock radiator and fans, I overheated at the track. This year with Godspeed and low profile fans I have overheated parked.
The culprits seem to be the A/C and lowprofile fans. Without the A/C condenser pumping heat into the radiator, it is fine at any speed. The lowprofile fans don't seem to do the job that the OEM ones did at low speeds and stopped..
The culprits seem to be the A/C and lowprofile fans. Without the A/C condenser pumping heat into the radiator, it is fine at any speed. The lowprofile fans don't seem to do the job that the OEM ones did at low speeds and stopped..