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Old Mar 26, 2011 | 11:06 PM
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http://clubroadster.net/vb_forum/showthread.php?t=43928

Wow. Thats all.

"i cant decide between the two. of course money is and issue and ive found a cold air kit for 200 bucks from a mazda speed. i also was looking on ebay and there was a t3t4 turbo kit for 400 bucks. would that kit actually work or is it spam."
Old Mar 26, 2011 | 11:33 PM
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in mother Russia, block not hit turbo
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Haha I love how MT.net pwnage is mentioned halfway down the page. Someone should make sure he gets the $400 churbo kit.
Old Mar 27, 2011 | 01:13 AM
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yea thats my thread....they told me to come here and ask....
Old Mar 27, 2011 | 01:21 AM
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yea thats my thread....they told me to come here and ask....
Welcome. Please get it. It'll bolt right on and you can use it at 21psi as is.
Old Mar 27, 2011 | 01:22 AM
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Welcome. Please get it. It'll bolt right on and you can use it at 21psi as is.
how many hp does that compare to the mazdaspeed intake
Old Mar 27, 2011 | 01:26 AM
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Originally Posted by Mjmx5
how many hp does that compare to the mazdaspeed intake
Read what I posted in your other thread. Try not to post again until you have read most of the stickies and done some searching around.
Old Mar 27, 2011 | 01:28 AM
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read this
https://www.miataturbo.net/diy-turbo-discussion-14/diy-faq-all-your-answers-one-big-post-4288/

and this

https://www.miataturbo.net/diy-turbo-discussion-14/your-path-power-selecting-your-starting-platform-eliminating-weak-links-56507/
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That turbo kit is definitely not SPAM.
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Originally Posted by Mjmx5
yea thats my thread....they told me to come here and ask....
go back there and ask again.
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I wish I wasn't IP banned, I want to read the fail

But apparently it has crossed over onto our shores.
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In mother russia, turbo hit you.


OP, get it and prove us wrong.
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We don't have to live up to that stereotype, right? Though I know a lot of people here like to.

mjmx5 (btw there are powerful people who would love to hear you tell them that the MJ is for the late zombie pop singer), there is a vast difference between a cold air intake and a turbo setup.

Cold Air Intake: a pipe and a filter that do nothing more than the stock intake system on your car except move the location from where air is drawn into the pipe. Take a breath. Take a breath 3 feet away. Did you feel more powerful?

Turbo: an exhaust driven turbine connected by a shaft to an air compressor that uses heat energy in the exhaust to force air into the engine. because of the increased pressure (and therefore increased mass) of air entering the motor, a turbo is able to increase the volumetric efficiency AND power of the motor significantly.

If you want a cold air intake, you don't need us. It is probably 3 bolts, zero time to set up, and zero tuning. It's also probably zero power.

A turbo requires much more time and effort but can result in (safely on a stock motor) an extra 100 wheel horsepower.

The ebay kit might get you half of that (for a while) and cause you a lot of headache, but if you read the linked threads above you'll start to understand why.
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Originally Posted by y8s
We don't have to live up to that stereotype, right? Though I know a lot of people here like to.

mjmx5 (btw there are powerful people who would love to hear you tell them that the MJ is for the late zombie pop singer), there is a vast difference between a cold air intake and a turbo setup.

Cold Air Intake: a pipe and a filter that do nothing more than the stock intake system on your car except move the location from where air is drawn into the pipe. Take a breath. Take a breath 3 feet away. Did you feel more powerful?

Turbo: an exhaust driven turbine connected by a shaft to an air compressor that uses heat energy in the exhaust to force air into the engine. because of the increased pressure (and therefore increased mass) of air entering the motor, a turbo is able to increase the volumetric efficiency AND power of the motor significantly.

If you want a cold air intake, you don't need us. It is probably 3 bolts, zero time to set up, and zero tuning. It's also probably zero power.

A turbo requires much more time and effort but can result in (safely on a stock motor) an extra 100 wheel horsepower.

The ebay kit might get you half of that (for a while) and cause you a lot of headache, but if you read the linked threads above you'll start to understand why.
Cold air intake information is just terrible. The reason for it is to get cold air, which results in more power. It also gets rid of restrictive intake tubing. There's a time and place for it to be quite helpful, especially on a car that in stock form draws air from next to the exhaust manifold.
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In for dyno comparison of stock miata vs miata with cold air intake.

I put money on no change.
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With some POS CAI like are sold as boltons for the miata? No. They're crap.

Look at people who win races and need every last HP.

Have you SEEN the intake on this car?

Leaving on the crossover tube is idiocy. Post MAF/AFM CAI's are junk, other than cowl intakes. Those are proven horsepower, right there.
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Yes but I feel that there is more done to that car then just a CAI.
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Not relevant. Cold air is cold air. High pressure is high pressure.

You might not think it's worth 1-3 horsepower to do that kind of fine tuning, but there's power there to be had, development and competition makes it worthwhile.
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Originally Posted by Nagase
Cold air intake information is just terrible. The reason for it is to get cold air, which results in more power. It also gets rid of restrictive intake tubing. There's a time and place for it to be quite helpful, especially on a car that in stock form draws air from next to the exhaust manifold.
No way man, stock 2001 has a "cold air intake" with a flared snorkel that sucks in cold air (from behind a divider wall!) behind the headlight.



(I'd be willing to bet that someone comparing a $400 ebay turbo is not comparing a real cold air intake--let alone one that gives 3 hp)



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