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What are 460's good to?

Old Aug 10, 2007 | 06:15 PM
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Originally Posted by Ben
nope. i was also assuming well tuned.
whats that td04 I cant hear you over my spoolin tdo5
Old Aug 10, 2007 | 06:28 PM
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Originally Posted by airbrush1
on my 1.8, I did 260 wheel at 12psi on RX7 460's..... don't remember the duty cycle, but we had plenty of injector left
Was that still with stock fuel pressure/pump?

Not trying to thread jack, but thats right where I want to be (hp wise) and I'm thinking that 460's sound right.
Old Aug 10, 2007 | 06:32 PM
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you should be fine at that level if ben can do it on a 1.6 and airbrush on a big turbo 1.8 then it will work for you as well.
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But are both of them running stock fuel pressure and pumps?
Old Aug 10, 2007 | 06:41 PM
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No I have an upgraded fuel pump, walbro 190lph hp, which probably helps keep fuel pressure steady better than the stocker could. I'm well under 80% IJDC at my power, rarely get to 72% or so on the street.

not sure what would be lost with a standard pump.
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Buy an MSPNP Pro, you'll feel better.
Old Aug 10, 2007 | 06:45 PM
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We need braineack or someone who isn't lazy like me to figure out the flow requirements of the 460's at that power, and the stock pumps flow in comparison.
Old Aug 10, 2007 | 07:36 PM
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the stock pump can flow 300BHP at 50psi....so if you arent making more than that, a new pump isn't needed...unless it's crapping out.


here's a good resource for the lazy: http://www.megamanual.com/v22manual/minj.htm
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Sweet thanks for the info. 460's sound like a good bet for 250whp.
Old Aug 10, 2007 | 08:16 PM
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of course, that's assuming the stock pump holds 50psi at high map through red line. A fresh pump, probably no problem. From what I see, some--even most--do, but others don't. These things are getting pretty old now.

The stock pump in an NB can NOT hold 60psi (NB's run 60-63 static) in high map, high rpm situations.
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Old Aug 10, 2007 | 09:40 PM
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Originally Posted by Ben
The stock pump in an NB can NOT hold 60psi (NB's run 60-63 static) in high map, high rpm situations.
Do you know how much they drop off?
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ask POPSTOY :gay:

according to him it drops to like 40psi or something really low...he's convinced the only cure is a 255lph pump as he saw the same with a 190lph, but I'd take that with a grain of salt.
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I'd say invest the $20 in a fuel pressure gauge, but really I'd just put that $20 towards the $80 a new pump costs. But since you run a MS, I also assume you have a full time wideband. So you'll know if you need a better pump or not.

People here tend to get pretty hung up on fuel pressure. I don't give a rat's A what the fuel pressure is, as long as my chambers get their fuel.
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Old Aug 11, 2007 | 07:56 AM
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460's come with some of the Subaru EJ20T's ... so you know they're good for at least 280hp at the *crank* even with a rich/retarded factory tune
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