What kind of tires? I was on unshaved 235-40-17 Toyo RA1s. They were good for a few laps, but then they went away pretty quickly. I guess trying to catch a 500whp Evo can do that to a set of tires.

Right....getting too big of a turbo is to help with traction coming out of a corner. I guess I have been doing it all wrong. The fact that makes sense to you bewilders me.

You should be able to control the car and not set up the car to control you.

Really? So you don't think a 1.6l can spool a GT28 by 5k rpm? That would still leave me 3k rpm to have fun with. How is that irrational? Do I have ANOTHER doubter? DAMN, I thought I had gotten past this in the "A Greddy can't make that much power on the WG" thread. I don't say shit unless it's 100% rational and plausible. I have a very good knowledge base that I rely on, and it isnt your average forum member.

So 400-450hp on a 1.6 with a 2876R is rational? Also, you only have 2400rpm to go there buddy, unless you build the head. Which you probably should with that small of a useable window to get as much as you can.

I don't have a big turbo yet. I'm still cruising with the Greddy TD04H-15G. It spooled too fast, and was making the car hard to drive out of a corner without having the back end kick out. So we tuned the boost controller and the cam gears to try and move it later in the RPMs so we could get more traction coming out of the slower corners. I try to set the car up for the track, not just force the car to work.

8k is the limit for the stock valvetrain in the 1.6l. Not 7400. Yes, GT2876R with 9.5:1 CR Wiseco Pistons, Methanol injection kit, and an AEM EMS. Should spool rather nicely. :fawk:

Then obviously you need to learn to drive your car or get something you can handle. I have never heard anyone say "man my turbo sure does spool too fast". I am done shitting on this guys thread.

You friggin' idiot, that's what you right foot is for.:bowrofl:

I have a hired gun that drives. "The Stig" as I call him. He's been given tons of free rides in race cars just based on his skill. Keith Verges gave him a free ride in his SM, Bob Stretch gave him a free ride in his ITA Miata, and might give him a seat in a GTA V8 car. He is currently in a Sprint Car, also a 100% free sponsored ride. So driving skill isn't an issue.

You can only make some much adjustment with a tiny turbo to control car position with the go-pedal. He was having issues coming out of Rattlesnake in 2d, so we moved the powerband up so he could get more traction and hit boost when he wanted it. It showed in the lap times, that is what matters.

No one cares. This really isnt what this thread is about.......

You're going to have problems with the 2176 because it makes 18psi at 4200rpm in my buddy's racecar.

What lap times did he turn at MSR's 1.7 CCW? I'd love to see where we line up with a mystery champion.

It's like a 15% increase in displacement, you fuckwit. Let me take 15% out of your paycheck and then you can call it slight.

You're a level beyond retard. Do you even own a fucking Miata? Stock 1.6 revs higher than stock 1.8?

Mods, can we please just ban this guy? He's a noncontributing troll, just like Hyper.

Your comparing your Driving to the stigs' ...... That's just stupid enough.... Even if your not the fact Is the stig Is an amazing driver imho and for you to say BS like that, is retarded!! Your driving skill is no where near the stigs so you shouldn't even care.... why don't you and your boy friend Zach effran go have sex in the back of your mom's mini van ok? don't BS It's Gay and NOT ok

welcome to the dallas track scene. Everyone is faster than everyone, yet no one knows lap times.

Fixed.

It is a sound theory though. If you have too much power and aren't coordinated enough to adjust it by backing off the gas pedal, tuning out power for that rpm range would work. A better idea would be to figure out how to get more traction and use that power, rather than wasting it. But what do I know, my turbo'd track slut has street tires and an open diff, so I don't have traction issues to deal with.

First ever use of the Ignore List function. Works pretty sweet!

I already get >15% taken out of it.

Add a few more psi, and BAM, replacement for displacement. This is a turbo forum, right?

I was actually refering to the redline assigned to the 1.6l vs 1.8l on the stock ECU. I have only found one 1.8l (2.0l stroker 688whp, I am sure most know who that would be, rev'd to 9k or something insane) that revs past 7k (went to almost 7.5k) on their dyno pulls. I actually don't know what the 1.8l can safely rev to stock. I know the 1.6l is 8k cause of the hyd lifters.

I still don't see why this is an argument/discussion. You can make more than enough power with a 1.6l or a 1.8l to overwhelm the chassis. Does it really make sense to swap to a 1.8l and still have to build it like you would the 1.6l to not be able to make any more USABLE power with it? If the car currently has a 1.6l, keep it, if it has a 1.8l, keep it, if you find a cheap 1.8l to swap in, it's not gonna hurt you any.

This is worse than the idiot Honda guys arguing over using a B16, B18A/B/B20, or B18C bottom end. They will all make more than enough power to shit yourself if you wanted.

I wonder if we'll have the "Swap in a MZR" guys in here next, like the K20 guys in Honda world?

I would like to think enough of our society that someone couldn't be this stupid. You are puting subjective reasoning into something that was an objective question. From an objective stand point, a 1.8L will be more effiecient at making more power from the same size turbo and at a lower RPM. From a subjective stand point, I feel it is a worthwhile investment.

You have 2 engines that could be pretty easily traded for a buildable 1.8L. Once you build the 1.6L the spare will be useless.

Reading Comprehension isn't your strong suit, is it? I said my friend, whom I call the Stig. How can you comment on my driving skills, you don't even know me?!?

Lap times don't matter, it's the cars you beat/kept up with at the track that matters. Sub 1:28s (1.7 CCW) is all I'll admit to right now. :ugh:

Well, if I was using my Hoosiers the car would have probably hooked, but on street tires, eh, no. We tuned for what we were running, which is how your supposed to do it. With the tiny Greddy turbo, you don't really get much of a chance to modulate the boost with throttle inputs, plus we weren't trying to baby it around the track, we were out to beat on an Evo.