what are you talking about? if you can't wire up fans, then you fail at life and should end it now.

+1, you can even borrow a gun to do so.

burnt up wires and shit.jpg

I own a few guns, so I can do that myself.

anyone have pictures of the 12" fans on this? I am particularly interested in seeing if it will clear the sway bar. How much improvement should I expect with either of these fans when using the stock radiator?

You could look at CFM levels for each and compare to stock if you're using a shroud...but since you provided insufficient detail in your proposed set-up, expect a barrage of insulting responses with foul language and homosexual innuendo.

Ok, allow me to be more specific. I have a stock rad with stock fans right now. I have a heatshield on the turbo but things are still REALLY hot under the hood. So I am pondering buying these fans and using them on my stock rad, knowing I will have to make a shroud for it. So, it was mentioned earlier that the 12" fans might not clear the sway bar. So, my clarified question is: if I put these fans on my car with a new shroud, will I have clearance issues with my stock sway bar?

Hopefully I jumped in before the innuendo and language kicked in ;)

dunno, but a bigger radiator is going to cool the water in the car, not the exhaust manifold which makes it hot under the hood.

true, but with more air coming into the car, I can add some ducting to direct air to the turbo and out through the transmission tunnel. Dual function from what I can tell. I have some other tricks up my sleeve to try to help with this little problem. I forsee the car going back up on jacks in a couple of weeks...

you should try "Direct Exhaust Injection" because you're a fucking retard.

No, I am a professional mechanical engineer and am using some principles of directed airflow to remove the hot air from the engine bay by providing an easy route for the hot air to escape. Seems logical to me.

Back on topic... I was just looking to see if anyone has any pictures of using the 12" fans with the stock rad.

so you're going to attempt to cool the turbine housing?

Yes, with ducted air from the upgraded fans.

sounds pretty 'tarded. you're probably better off opening the hood over the turbo to extract air right over it. one of my x-coworkers cut a few gills over his turbo, worked very well. a 280z vent would work well.

Why would you want to cool the turbine as opposed to, say, insulating it to keep heat in?

Why would you want to heat the transmission tunnel with air off the turbine?

Looking to wear out the rubber shift boots faster?

I realize one of the most effective way to do this would be to cut grills in the hood. But I don't want to do that, so I am looking for some other methods.

I am already in line to try out one of the turbo blankets.

That is already happening right now. With the heatshield over the turbo and the undertray installed, the hot air exhausts out through the trans tunnel anyway.

I have some other plans to prevent that from happening. And if it doesn't work out, I am just out a sheet or two of aluminum :) When I get around to doing some more work with this, I will make a new thread so this one can stay on topic.

which heat sheild?

Heat shield from my FM II.

http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/ws/eB...%3Dy%26fvi%3D1

$59 shipped. 2x 12"fans. 2.5" in the middle, tapering down to 1.25". 10 mounting holes, 2000cfm, 8-10 amp draw. Chinese made. Reversible. Curved blades.

P.S. Talked to a guy named Mark. Asked him about "street rod world" ones for $55, and he directed me to this item, saving me $10 bucks.
Turns out that the company has some 15 Ebay identities, and their website is http://www.gearheadworld.com/

^ nice find.