if u are truly in, please send me a PM and let me know what exactly u want, so i can put u on the list

some of us like passing emissions and being legal to drive on public roads :)

ya i gotta go get emissions this weekend

nice thing about obd2... as long as my stock computer isn't tossing out codes I'm good to go. they don't sniff obd2 here.

yeah, they dont here either i dont think, just do the check engine check..

I passed tho so im good..

all the numbers looked good except hydrocarbons were kinda high

.77 i think, 1.0 is highest accepted

Heh, Mine were .91, accepted is .93. ;)

here is the quote diy gave me:
do I need the stim and the harness?

ah yes, the beauty of owning a 1991.

that's a blessing and a curse... you will actually have to tune the car properly to pass the sniff test. I, on the other hand, only have to keep the stock ECU from throwing codes and I'll pass.

Both have their pros/cons.

well, how possible is it to get a hopped up motor to not throw codes?

Besides, if you go to the right shop, it doesn't matter on the sniffer.

If you are getting the board pre-built and modded, i dont see why you would need the stim... unless you make changes later on and want to test them..

and if u get in our group guy, you will save some $$ check out the thread 367 for the modded MS

oh wait this is the thread

lol...

What's the word on how many people are in on the GB now? I'm itching to get mine already.

yeah, im ready too.... but im afraid we dont have enough people, and im not sure if we are going to :(

Chad, looks like you and me are for sure, and miatamania is a maybe, and gts miata is on the fence... if we can get them in, and then one more, we are good! I will have my funding eary next week and be ready to buy...

We need to get this goin folks!

heh...I'm working hard for the money!

yeah if we don't have them by next week i'll probably just buy it on my own. As of next week rifle season is officially over so I won't have practice and all that crap to deal with. Which means i'll have time for MS and might as well start using it. Just keep us updated.

yeah im with you.. i had said a few weeks, but i think im ready after next week too.. The deadline is getting moved to feb 16th... If i dont have 5 for sure buyers by then, i will have to pull the plug.. sorry guys.

I like deadlines, now I have to make a decision... will try to get a final verdict asap.

AdBradley, I just spoke to Jerry at DIY. He says the setup will work with my car, and I can also use the MS to control boost. I am in for sure. #5. :)

ok gts and miatamania, its up to you guys, you have till the 16th!! lets go

so...final price = ?

I'm going to need....MS...IAT...Serial Cable...and to figure out how to wire it to the stock ECU...b/c this is what confuses me.

I am just in for the discounts, so I will order all the extras (IAT, cables, etc.) later. I just want the MS and the board mods.

true...

but whats the final price on that? $367?

367 for the modded board... go to diyautotune for the rest of the prices... and add a lil for shipping

I've already added the rest of the prices up, I just wanted to know the price of the board, and if that was the only thing we got GB prices on.


I've got a week...I'll see what I can pull out of my ass lol.

Ah, so so extra discounts on the other items. Thought they might knock a couple bucks off a stim or something. Oh well.

I'm interested in the MS for a 1995 1.8.
Pls tell me what do I need to order.

paul, you can get the ms1 pcb V.3 fully built modded to work with your miata (idle valve mod, ignition mod) for $367 normally it would be about 30 dollars more. You will still have to get some various other items.. but this is a good discount on the main unit.
http://diyautotune.com/tech_articles...azda_miata.htm here is a link to show what will be done for you.

the msI v3.0 costs 330 assembled from their site directly

how much wopuld this be:
msI v3.0 unassembled
open intake temp sensor
closed coolant temp sensor
lead bending tool
12' wireing harness

thanks

My good sir...I'm in.

I'll just order the MS assembled and modded and then take car of the other stuff in a month or two...gives me plenty of time on how to understand/work with MS.

Has someone verified this? It looks like we have to buy a harness already built or build one ourselves?

I'm trying to figure out what else I would need for my 95...

1. Either the 2' bundle of wires and solder them into the DB37 connector or buy the 18" pig tail that is put together?

2. Tuning cable

I bought an assembled harness, back when the onlly option was 6'. I've got a huge coil of wire under my dash. I wish the 18" was available when i got it. Do that. You'll need a serial cable, unless you already have one. and a USB adapter unless you laptop has a serial port.

Actually 18" probably isn't long enough if you mount it in the glovebox like me. It would probably fit under the stock ECU shield though.

Al, can't you clip the 6' harness down to whatever size you need and just trim the shielding back again?

Yeah, but then I'd have to redo every splice and solder connection I made. And I'm pretty lazy.

and that really doesn't sound like a lot of fun...

I'd like to be in on this group buy. I'm a little hesitant overall, however, because of so few installs on 99+. I have a 2000. I know I need to CAS from 94+ or something. Still reading on this. Anyway, can't send you a PM, adbradley, because I don't have ten posts. Can you send me a PM with an email and I can respond. Maybe I'll just ask a bunch a newbie questions so I can get my post count up (not my preference)! Can I use the same mod's as you guys or will I need a unmodded assembled board and do mod's specific for the 99+ install?

I'm betting you could just get the assembled (but unmodded one) at the group buy price. As for the mods, I do not know, so I can't answer that...sorry :confused:

For a MS I PCBv3.0 Kit 179

look the rest up on diyautotune.com


the 367 price is for a ms I v3.0 built unit with all the miata mods... (cas input, and idle control) if you build yourself you will need to do these mods and buy extra parts.. read the install article on diyautotune.com and read up on the megasquirt forum here before you decide to buy.

Since when doesn't DIYautotune not include all the needed parts to mod the MS for a miata?

The prcice for an assembled unit on their site is 330 for the ms-I v3.0 and 189 for the unassembled. so there is no big diff on this group buy, so I think I'll just buy straight from diy without the groups buy. but thanks anyways

Yes they include the few resistors for the CAS mod free of charge. But when buying an assembled MS they do not include DOING the mods for you for free. The extra $37 is for them to complete the mods that way all you have to do is wire the MS into the car and start uploading your maps and tune from there.

i think you have to buy a small kit to get the idle control to work as well, but thats cool no problem go ahead and pay that extra 10 bucks

How much longer tell you guys plan on buying? I might be in for the unasembled board. I just need a little time to figure out what all I will need, and to get some money together.

end of this week IIRC.

everyone says iirc what the hell does that stand for?

iirc = If I Recall/Remember Correctly

Happy Birthday to me, I'm in for the built and modded MS!

Now I have to decide what else I need... according to the DIY web site, the closed element sensor works as an IAT for N/A cars. It will be at least a year before I go forced induction... need to figure out which to get.

sweeeeeeet we have everyone we need then, i will get the spicifics on payments and shipping.. everyone please pm me with exactly what you are going to order so i know for sure..


Im going to try and get all of this ordered by friday, but may be monday.



Thanx!

just get the open element now... it's cheaper than buying the closed element only to have to replace it when you boost.

how would it run though? any difference?

for now mine was just screwed into the stock plastic intake tube. there are two wires run from the sensor to the ECU (you want to share ground with the ECU). It's simple and straight forward. megamanual tell you how to use the open element, not the closed.

but your not having any problems w/ the open element?

The open element IAT sensor works just as well on NA cars as on turbo cars. It's a bit less affected by heat soak, and responds faster. The main advantage of using the closed element sensor for an IAT on an NA car is that it's cheaper. It gives out the same signal as the open element IAT.

None at all...

awesome :bigtu:

thank you sir as well.

ok, after figuring everything up here is the bottom line

to use paypal to consolidate everyones money and pay DIYautotune, its going to cost 2.9%

Shipping for each person is going to be 15 bucks.

By only getting a 10$ discount on the unbuilt units from DIY, its actauly cheeper to pay full price and get it yourself.

As far as the fully built kit guys go, you will save some money.

it will end up being like 15 bucks max.

Myself, and Cjernagan are getting the kit, so this is no real value for us.

If you are getting the fully built unit, i will still do this group buy, but i will need 5 of you to do it. So that means i need 2 more people willing to buy.


Sorry guys, i guess i should have calculated this stuff before.

Adam, see if DIY will let us pay by CC directly to DIY with some sort of MT.net rewards code. No need to give Paypal a cut.

i talked to jerry, and he said he would rather recieve all of the money at once.