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Savington 05-03-2008 12:25 AM

Plug and Play Toyota Coil-On-Plug Setup - $200 Shipped before May 17th
 
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teaser thread here

I will be offering a Plug and Play Toyota COP (Coil-On-Plug) setup for the 1990-2000 Miata. I am ready to accept orders for the 90-93 1.6 setups; 1.8 guys, wait about a week for me to build a harness and test it before I start taking orders for those. 96-00 will be after that, probably 2-4 weeks down the line.

Question: What the hell is this product?
Answer: The stock ignition system sucks for boost, so a bunch of people have switched over to a Toyota ignition system. There are a few writeups which will explain it more in detail:

The original COP Thread
Braineack's writeup
SamNavy's writeup

Question: What are the benefits?
Answer: If you're stock? Pretty much nothing, except never having to buy plug wires again. If you're turboed? A bunch of stuff. Many users have reported smoother idle, smoother running, more plug gap (.040 or larger) at high boost (17psi+), all very good stuff.

Question: What does this include? Do I have to solder/wire anything in?
Answer: For the 1.6 guys, no. This includes a pre-wired and gutted ignitor, which means you literally unplug the stock ignitor, plug in the new gutted ignitor, route the wiring harness, bolt the COPs down to the valve cover (a mounting bracket and hardware is included, obviously), attach one ground, and turn the key. No soldering or wiring is required at all.

For the 1.8 guys, I am 99% sure it will be pretty much the same. Nothing is set in stone for the 1.8 yet, so I will mumble more about it when I know more later.

Question: How much does it cost, and when can I pay you?
Answer: $200 shipped before May 17th, $250 shipped after that, in the US.
50% deposit puts your name on the list, which means I start to build your harness and search for your coils. The other 50% is due when your setup is complete, tested, and ready to ship. You can pay all at once as well, doesn't matter to me. My paypal address is: sav -at- jaykidd -dot- com. Please include your forum name in the comments box, as well as what year you have and what ECU/mods you have on your car.

Question: How long will it take?
Answer: I want to underpromise and overdeliver, so I am going to say 4 weeks from deposit to completion. I will keep each individual person updated on the status of their harness, so you'll get a more accurate ETA later on.

Question: I already bought coils, but I would rather have you do the wiring and mounting bracket. Is there any discount available?
Answer: Sure. $80 off. I'd like you to send me your coils so I can test the setup (I plan to test every setup I make before selling it), but if you'd rather save the shipping costs that's fine too. I will test your setup on another set of coils before I send it out.

Any more questions? PM me.

An unfinished harness (gives you a general idea)
Attachment 213293

I'll have more photos next week.

disturbedfan121 05-03-2008 12:38 AM

i'm def. interested PM sent

Savington 05-03-2008 04:49 AM

For all the interest I got, not a lot of orders. If you wouldn't pay $250 for these, what would you pay?

slutz4 05-03-2008 09:45 AM

Im interested, Im just bidding on something on ebay, if I dont win it, Ill get these :).

disturbedfan121 05-03-2008 10:18 PM

well how much would it really cost you. i mean obviously you need the money for materials. You want 170$ to wire it together and make the mounting panel.....in materials that can't cost you much more than 50$ per "kit" (that sounds like being generous to me for wire and a piece of aluminum) so thats 120 in your pocket per kit, I mean i'm not complaining i'm semi willing to pay the 250, but you gotta see what you can do it for, bottom dollar in your pocket..........not trying to be a dick just stating cause you asked

Savington 05-03-2008 11:12 PM


Originally Posted by disturbedfan121 (Post 251588)
well how much would it really cost you. i mean obviously you need the money for materials. You want 170$ to wire it together and make the mounting panel.....in materials that can't cost you much more than 50$ per "kit" (that sounds like being generous to me for wire and a piece of aluminum) so thats 120 in your pocket per kit, I mean i'm not complaining i'm semi willing to pay the 250, but you gotta see what you can do it for, bottom dollar in your pocket..........not trying to be a dick just stating cause you asked

No offense taken. It's more than just wire and aluminum, keep in mind; I'm using OEM Toyota connectors to keep the number of soldered connections down, and the ignitors aren't inconsequential, either. Thanks for your opinion.

How about this: Order it before Saturday, May 17th, and I will do it for $200 shipped.

levnubhin 05-03-2008 11:18 PM

Im in at that price! Just paypal you? 50% now and 50% when done?
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Savington 05-03-2008 11:20 PM

Just paypal me. Include your forum name so I can keep everything straight. Half now so I know you're serious (I don't want to be wasting time and money building harnesses and searching for coils only to have someone back out), half when I am done.

levnubhin 05-03-2008 11:26 PM

50% sent.
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Vashthestampede 05-03-2008 11:32 PM

I will check funds this week and get back to you. I was thinking about going to COPs, but first I need a manifold and finish my turbo.

Hopefully I can be a part of this.

Vash-

Loki047 05-04-2008 12:26 AM

I am in.

Mach929 05-04-2008 01:11 AM

how much for wiring alone if i send you an ignitor and already have coils and i want to make my own hold down bracket?

Savington 05-04-2008 01:53 AM


Originally Posted by Mach929 (Post 251630)
how much for wiring alone if i send you an ignitor and already have coils and i want to make my own hold down bracket?

coils -80
ignitor -20
bracket -20

$80 for wiring, connectors, and the 10,000MFD capacitor.

(oh, by the way, all of these harnesses will have that cap.)

paul 05-04-2008 09:15 AM

Bryan, you're a moron.

I think the $200 price is fair for the whole shebang.


Put me down for a wiring harness for a 94 with the cap. I'll make my own bracket and have the cops already.

airbrush1 05-04-2008 11:27 AM

so when should us NB owners (99-00) shoot you a deposit? I hate wiring, and 200 seems fair

paul 05-04-2008 11:30 AM

Sav, are you gonna have connectors on the "other"end to connect directly to the factory harness in a 94?

kotomile 05-04-2008 01:39 PM

paid in full, Sav. Thanks!

m2cupcar 05-04-2008 03:29 PM

Yeah - $200 for the harness/loom and coil packs is a deal! :bigtu: for a pNp solution

For example an alternative setup using the MSD DIS2 would cost ~$200 for the used MSD, then you still have do the wiring, located the box and you're stuck with plug wires.

turbobluemiata 05-04-2008 06:16 PM

paypal sent thanks for your service! saves me alot of frustration

richard_ha 05-04-2008 07:09 PM

Will this wire in OK for those of us using MsPNPs?

Savington 05-04-2008 07:56 PM

I actually prefer that you use the MSPNP. If you are planning to use these for an extended period of time on a stock ECU, or ANY period of time on an E-Manage Blue/Ultimate, you will need to use Jason C_SBB's circuit to reduce dwell.

miatamania 05-04-2008 08:03 PM

Or just a MS in general.

EDIT: I fail at reading.

disturbedfan121 05-05-2008 10:16 AM

200 is a great price, so many people said they'd be in as soon as he posted 200$....no one really said anything when he had 250 up.....

i'll be sending some money probably this friday

MX5-4me 05-05-2008 10:21 AM

I'm just waiting on the 99-00 version.
:)

pschmidt 05-05-2008 11:50 AM


Originally Posted by MX5-4me (Post 252089)
I'm just waiting on the 99-00 version.
:)

Same here.

Loki047 05-05-2008 01:11 PM

Savington, Im having paypal issues. Save me a set. I will send payment asap.

rockdoc 05-05-2008 01:16 PM

i,M in- 50% down:)

levnubhin 05-05-2008 01:41 PM

I cant see how everyone with a 1.6 wouldnt be in at this point.
When you figure in time spent and gas used in rounding up the parts, paying Sav the $200 is well worth it.
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cueball1 05-05-2008 01:53 PM

Sav,

Payment sent. Take your time. Mine's a 94 1.8 like yours. MSpnp and BEGI's S4 system. BEGI will likely have my car for another couple of weeks so I'm in no hurry.

kotomile 05-05-2008 07:00 PM

So, out of curiosity, what's the ETA on these?:noes:

deadmeat 05-05-2008 11:10 PM

Send my 50%. Can't wait to get this, as it will make it a lot easier to install my protege valve cover without all those damned plug wires hanging around everywhere.

Thanks!

-meaty

Savington 05-06-2008 12:02 AM


Originally Posted by kotomile (Post 252362)
So, out of curiosity, what's the ETA on these?:noes:

I am saying 4 weeks and I will most likely come in under that, but I don't want to say 2 weeks and then have some junkyard jerk me around on COPs like this last batch (junkyard said they had 18, I ordered 12, turns out they only had 6).

cueball1 05-06-2008 11:30 AM

Savington,

What donor cars should I look for. Like to help out if I can.

Savington 05-06-2008 03:24 PM

Any 1.8, so 94-00 will do. I need the last part of the engine harness, the part that connects the coilpacks and the fuel injectors to the main engine harness. The plug is right next to the coilpacks, in plain sight on the back of the valve cover.

Paul, I missed your question earlier. I haven't found the connectors, so what I am going to do is ship a separate harness wired for the COPs. You'll unplug the harness from your fuel injectors and coil packs, plug this harness in, and go. OR, if you want the ability to switch faster than that, I can install a Weatherpack connector in that harness so you can switch between COPs and stock coil packs with one quick connection change.

levnubhin 05-07-2008 12:17 PM

Hey Sav, any pics of a completed set yet, with coils attached?
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Savington 05-07-2008 08:52 PM

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This is sans mounting bracket and I took an inch or so off the length of the #1 harness to make it look like all the others. This is also sans connectors, I hadn't gotten ahold of a Dremel.

Attachment 213264

This is with the length corrected, and with connectors, but not on a car:

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v3...n/DSCN0248.jpg

kotomile 05-07-2008 10:07 PM

So, get these, open the gap on my plugs to 35-40, and then...

..change some settings on the MS?

Loki047 05-07-2008 10:40 PM

Paid IN full

Savington 05-08-2008 02:32 AM

Loki, I just put 2 and 2 together. What ECU are you on?

BracedEunos 05-08-2008 04:52 AM

I am going to stew on this for a few days. I dont think I should have an issue with my link. Should I?

jayc72 05-08-2008 10:42 AM


Originally Posted by BracedEunos (Post 253743)
I am going to stew on this for a few days. I dont think I should have an issue with my link. Should I?

It'll work on a link (90-93 anyway), I used the 1K pull up resistor.

levnubhin 05-08-2008 12:44 PM

So are one of those mine? :x:
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Savington 05-08-2008 10:43 PM

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That's for me to know and you to find out ;)

Attachment 213243

The first 1.8 harness. I set the 3 stand-off plugs a little closer to the main loom and I really like how it turned out, much cleaner. I am going to do all the 1.6 harnesses like that as well. I am installing this harness on my own car this weekend, and once I test it I will start taking deposits for 94-95 OBDI 1.8 setups. OBDII 1.8s will be next, probably 2 weeks. The same 2 week discount applies for the 1.8 guys, $200 shipped until 2 weeks from today.

cueball1 05-10-2008 02:09 AM

Oh, heck. I sent in my down payment for my 1.8 several days ago. Guess I jumped the gun! Knew you wouldn't take too long since you've got a 94 also!

greddymx5 05-10-2008 10:11 AM

Want a set too... Can you ship it to Holland (europe)??
Ill pay the extra shipping (usps is cheapest)

I have a LINK mk1 ecu and a 1.8 engine (I need a plate for a 1.8 engine) The car is a 91 (1.6 before convertion to 1.8, wiring still uses 1.6 coils...)

disturbedfan121 05-10-2008 03:12 PM

yo pm sent

eljefe305 05-11-2008 08:38 PM

interested :) send you 50% as soon as I get them

Savington 05-12-2008 05:04 AM

Bad news for the '94 guys. I finally got home this weekend to take a look at the little mini-harness in the '94, and it's got 3 or 4 connectors and a couple of grounds, and one of the connectors is not easy to get to. Shipping this harness pre-spliced isn't going to work out. For the '94 guys, I can ship a harness with labeled wire ends that you splice into your stock harness, or I can ship a harness with a Weatherpack connnector at one end, and then supply you with the other end of the Weatherpack to splice into your stock harness so you can remove the COP harness if you ever need to.

$190 without the Weatherpack, $200 with. For another $10 I can supply a second female/male to connect up to the stock coil connectors so you can switch back to the OEM coils easily. I only have a couple of 1.8 orders, and I will email you guys individually about this to decide what each person wants to do.

Dlaitini 05-12-2008 10:23 AM

As soon as paypal transfers the money ill be sending it to you ASAP

Mine is a 97 with MSPNP

cueball1 05-12-2008 02:13 PM

Sav,

Can you create a little diagram or schematic of what it will take to do the 94's? Don't know why but wiring scares the crap out of me. Have always hated it. Need to decide if I can tackle the project or not.

mighty mouse 05-12-2008 02:17 PM

What about a 1.8l motor in a 90 miata? Would there be a difference in the setup vs a plain 1.6l or a 1.8l?

Savington 05-12-2008 03:49 PM

Mighty mouse, tell me that when you send your order. I could be wrong, but I believe you maintain the 1.6 coils when you swap over, so it would be a 1.6 harness with a 1.8 mounting plate.

Savington 05-12-2008 04:33 PM


Originally Posted by greddymx5 (Post 254917)
Want a set too... Can you ship it to Holland (europe)??
Ill pay the extra shipping (usps is cheapest)

I have a LINK mk1 ecu and a 1.8 engine (I need a plate for a 1.8 engine) The car is a 91 (1.6 before convertion to 1.8, wiring still uses 1.6 coils...)

Missed this too. greddymx5, send me an email to the address I have listed for Paypal in the first post and we can discuss this. I have never done international shipping, but as long as you cover the extra shipping and duty charges, I don't think there should be any problems. As with the other 1.8 swap, you will use a 1.6 harness with a 1.8 plate.

mighty mouse 05-12-2008 06:20 PM


Originally Posted by Savington (Post 255756)
Mighty mouse, tell me that when you send your order. I could be wrong, but I believe you maintain the 1.6 coils when you swap over, so it would be a 1.6 harness with a 1.8 mounting plate.

alright sweet, thanks

miatamania 05-12-2008 09:12 PM

I need my refund check to come in....

We have till the 17th? or you want to extend that a little bit :)

mighty mouse 05-13-2008 06:16 PM

I sent you half :)

Savington 05-13-2008 06:29 PM


Originally Posted by mighty mouse (Post 256348)
I sent you half :)

Confirmed your order. Your setup is going to be seriously badass, post pics and dyno when it's done. :)

kula 05-13-2008 07:12 PM

are they original Toyota 1ZZ coils?

if yes ill take a pack, shipped to australia..

mighty mouse 05-13-2008 07:30 PM


Originally Posted by Savington (Post 256349)
Confirmed your order. Your setup is going to be seriously badass, post pics and dyno when it's done. :)

I have a build thread floating around here somewhere.

But thank you, yes I can't wait to get it finished.

BenR 05-15-2008 01:48 PM

Deposit sent, thanks for doing this!


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