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Braineack 07-31-2010 07:53 PM

5qts of oil killed my motor
 
http://clubroadster.net/vb_forum/showthread.php?t=34628

:brain:

chriscar 07-31-2010 07:59 PM

Patten?

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18psi 07-31-2010 08:00 PM

fucking retard. there were so many parts of that retarded story that made me :facepalm:

redfred18t 07-31-2010 08:05 PM

i thought that the worst thing that could happen by adding one quart more than the max is maybe a blown cat?

btw: I'm surprised at how little oil these cars take. I think I put 7 qt's in my 335 at the last change.

Stealth97 07-31-2010 08:10 PM

that whole place these days...

lordrigamus 07-31-2010 08:23 PM

Someone didn't pay attention in English class.

buffon01 07-31-2010 08:27 PM

I read a paragraph, the stopped.

curly 07-31-2010 08:39 PM

I have a response prepared, however I'm uncertain as to what to say.

1. Make massive fun of him for being a douche
2. Tell him his actual problem and hope he listens

It's his head gasket, isn't it? My thought was a poor tune cause the head gasket to go, then the oil/water mix screwed up his bearings. Or am I missing something.

Braineack 07-31-2010 08:42 PM

im sure it had something to do with the larger injectors, meth, and more boost. hell it's probably fine.

cardriverx 07-31-2010 08:48 PM

offer him $100 for his engine and turbo

rleete 07-31-2010 09:22 PM

More oil causes foaming? Tell him to run it 3 quarts low, to make sure all that foam settles out.

That whole place is full of shitheads and losers. There's a thread on shift knobs, and they were touting the TWM ones for $140. I made one for longuyen88 for about 3 bucks and a few hours working. Next, a guy shows this long aluminum one for $80. I offered to make him one for a lot less, and the douche hasn't even bothered to reply.

They all think that spending money makes a good car, even when it's stickers and fake vents. Performance is not even considered, only appearances.

buffon01 07-31-2010 09:26 PM


Originally Posted by rleete (Post 610163)
They all think that spending money makes a good car, even when it's stickers and fake vents. Performance is not even considered, only appearances.

That sir is, Mad-Tyte-JdM yo. PM about shift nob. I want to see what you rolll with.

rleete 07-31-2010 09:36 PM

I posted a thread about it. Pictures, even, so you don't have to read those hard words.

Stealth97 07-31-2010 09:58 PM

maybee it was those 12.5 sec quarter miles.

mgeoffriau 07-31-2010 10:06 PM

If that dude can tell what 3 or 4 fewer horsepower feels like, then I'm Mario Andretti.

buffon01 07-31-2010 10:09 PM

^^ I wish I had my fail icon over at CR

m2cupcar 07-31-2010 10:59 PM

yum, metal flakes, they'rrrrrrrrre GREAT!
http://perfectpitch.mlblogs.com/SNN1...80_372251a.jpg

hustler 07-31-2010 11:25 PM

What a fucktard.

magnamx-5 07-31-2010 11:47 PM

this guy sounds like hustler with less fail though or maybe a new rican miata. instead of someone stealing his oil they overfill the shit and then blow his motor.

hustler 07-31-2010 11:49 PM


Originally Posted by magnamx-5 (Post 610201)
this guy sounds like hustler with less fail though or maybe a new rican miata. instead of someone stealing his oil they overfill the shit and then blow his motor.

Tell us about your action figure collection. :fawk:

chriscar 07-31-2010 11:53 PM


Originally Posted by buffon01 (Post 610179)
^^ I wish I had my fail icon over at CR

WTF is OverRaided?
https://www.miataturbo.net/customava...ar10509_12.gif

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buffon01 07-31-2010 11:54 PM

IDK I was talking about this

:buffon:

Faeflora 08-01-2010 12:55 AM

I am impressed.

ScottFW 08-01-2010 01:17 AM


Originally Posted by chriscar (Post 610206)
WTF is OverRaided?

My first thought was that it made the fail award extra failicious because the creator couldn't spell "overrated" properly. But the context didn't really make sense so I googled it and I believe it has something to do with World of Warcraft and the 40-year-old virgins who play it, and may not be misspelled.

Rennkafer 08-01-2010 01:26 AM


As for oil frothing, this was a problem in all Miatas prior to '99 when they added the MBSP. That significantly reduces frothing which is great but the problem is Mazda took the MBSP out in the Mazdaspeed! I have seen a bare mazdaspeed head and it did not have the MBSP. I assume this is because they would have had to reingineer it since they dropped the compression ratio from 10:1 in the 01+ models to 9:1 in the mazdaspeed. In most casual driving circumstances, this doesn't really matter, and of course, it doesn't matter if you don't overfill but... if you overfill or are going to drive performance style, like autocross, then you need that MBSP in there to prevent the cams from whirring up the mixture and dumping oil into your intake.
Fae I really hope you're fucking with the OP here... really.

curly 08-01-2010 03:17 AM

Doesn't MBSP stand for main bearing support plate? You know, on the main bearings? I know a few of us have custom pistons in #4, but otherwise we wouldn't be able to see if it was there with just the head off.

FRT_Fun 08-01-2010 09:21 AM

:facepalm:

Things don't add up for this guy. Dipstick was reading correct... right? Yes. I chalk this one up to a shitty tune, or some other issue. Unless he can't read a dipstick. I feel this was going to happen whether he changed his oil or not. Clearly this guy is an idiot. Poor car.

hustler 08-01-2010 09:43 AM


Originally Posted by FRT_Fun (Post 610260)
:facepalm:

Things don't add up for this guy. Dipstick was reading correct... right? Yes. I chalk this one up to a shitty tune, or some other issue. Unless he can't read a dipstick. I feel this was going to happen whether he changed his oil or not. Clearly this guy is an idiot. Poor car.

dipsticks are incredibly complex and difficult to read.


I kept it going:

Originally Posted by faeflora (Post 613560)
With more fuel, it burns more slowly which means that your EGT may raise but that is fuel that is burning outside of the engine which means that you are safe.

How rich should the ratio be to make sure the fuel is burning in the turbo manifold and not inside the engine?


Originally Posted by faeflora (Post 613560)
then you need that MBSP in there to prevent the cams from whirring up the mixture and dumping oil into your intake.

How do the cams get oil into the intake?

thagr81 us 08-01-2010 09:49 AM


Originally Posted by mgeoffriau (Post 610177)
If that dude can tell what 3 or 4 fewer horsepower feels like, then I'm Mario Andretti.

This like a mo-fo! Maybe he just had a fat chic guy with him...

curly 08-01-2010 10:43 AM

Is faeflora the same moron that's on this board? The one that cut up his car? All I remember is him posting a video saying his car sounded weird, and he preceded to rev it up and down eleventy billion times.

Faeflora 08-01-2010 10:47 AM


Originally Posted by curly (Post 610276)
Is faeflora the same moron that's on this board? The one that cut up his car? All I remember is him posting a video saying his car sounded weird, and he preceded to rev it up and down eleventy billion times.

Suck a dick fagnut. Having never cut a piece of metal before in my life my sawzalling of the frame rail turned out pretty well in the end. For the record that fucked up car engine sound shit was caused by the timing plate clattering against the cam gear. If I had indeed spun a bearing, I was fucked by that point anyways.

FRT_Fun 08-01-2010 11:14 AM

http://baseballsnatcher.mlblogs.com/...mb-500x375.jpg

miatamania 08-01-2010 11:25 AM

lulz.


So...I had a hard time actually reading what he wrote, is he saying that 5 qts killed it or he put 5 + 1?

Faeflora 08-01-2010 11:27 AM

http://gigapress.com/b/1165225113685877.jpg

I am actually surprised FM sold him all that shit without mentioning engine management. I guess someone was happy to just take an order..

FRT_Fun 08-01-2010 11:30 AM


Originally Posted by miatamania (Post 610293)
lulz.


So...I had a hard time actually reading what he wrote, is he saying that 5 qts killed it or he put 5 + 1?

He is saying wal-mart confused him by selling a 5qt jug instead of the worldwide standard of 4qt jugs. So without paying attention he poured all 5qts in. Then he promptly noticed a loss of 3-4hp.

Braineack 08-01-2010 11:33 AM

I've never heard of a 4qt. jug.

gospeed81 08-01-2010 11:44 AM


Originally Posted by Braineack (Post 610297)
I've never heard of a 4qt. jug.

I think the worldwide standard for milk is a 4qt. jug...

Braineack 08-01-2010 11:51 AM

Maybe 4qt is the norm. I always need 5 qts for my prelude, thought i remember buying jugs for it, maybe i got them at walmart. lol.

miatamania 08-01-2010 12:11 PM

For Christ sakes...he spun a rod bearing using shitty oil. Someone inform him of that.

FRT_Fun 08-01-2010 12:11 PM

http://a.imageshack.us/img413/3216/walmartlul.jpg

Rennkafer 08-01-2010 12:21 PM


Originally Posted by faeflora (Post 610295)
I am actually surprised FM sold him all that shit without mentioning engine management. I guess someone was happy to just take an order..

The guy is a complete moron, I'm sure FM did mention it.

As for you... WTF does the MBSP have to do with cams?

Some people just shouldn't work on their own cars...


@:brain: They sell the 4qt oil jugs pretty much everywhere here... never seen a 5qt one though, and I usually buy my Rotella at WallyWorld.

buffon01 08-01-2010 01:07 PM

I say this fag will come here in a few days and say hi....

Faeflora 08-01-2010 03:06 PM


Originally Posted by Rennkafer (Post 610312)
The guy is a complete moron, I'm sure FM did mention it.

As for you... WTF does the MBSP have to do with cams?

The MBSP keeps the camshat rotating assembly tight which keeps your face locked down securely onto my nutsack.

FRT_Fun 08-01-2010 03:33 PM

COUGH
http://www.solomiata.com/MBSP.html
COUGH

Rennkafer 08-01-2010 04:04 PM


Originally Posted by faeflora (Post 610347)
The MBSP keeps the camshat rotating assembly tight which keeps your face locked down securely onto my nutsack.

.

The MAIN BEARING Support Plate supports, oddly enough, the main bearing caps which are located at the bottom of the block wrapped around the crankshaft, not your tiny nutsack.

The camshafts are located at the top of the head and open the valves.

So the MBSP is at the bottom of the engine, camshafts are at the top... clear enough for you?




Seriously, just stfu until you have the slightest idea you're talking about... :loser:

Stealth97 08-01-2010 05:59 PM

I could not help but run a troll over there
http://clubroadster.net/vb_forum/showthread.php?t=34689

yeah and flea I hope you were joking.

dgmorr 08-01-2010 07:49 PM


Originally Posted by Rennkafer (Post 610362)
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So the MBSP is at the bottom of the engine, camshafts are at the top... clear enough for you?

Seriously, just stfu until you have the slightest idea you're talking about... :loser:

WTF? Miata is a pushrod engine. The MBSP is bolted to the cam lobes which hold it steady while it rotates at 1/3 of the rotaries in the cylinder heads.

turotufas 08-01-2010 08:47 PM

Oh, I never commented on this... I sell oil to people like this. He is so dumb, really, really dumb! The smart ones ask me to look up engine oil capacity.

Turbobarber 08-01-2010 09:05 PM

My head aches from reading this. I feel a little sick as well...

hustler 08-01-2010 10:04 PM


Originally Posted by Rennkafer (Post 610362)
Seriously, just stfu until you have the slightest idea you're talking about... :loser:

Dense much?

Faeflora 08-01-2010 10:30 PM


Originally Posted by Rennkafer (Post 610362)
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So the MBSP is at the bottom of the engine, camshafts are at the top... clear enough for you?

Wrong. They call it MAIN BEARING support plate because your toothpick sized neck just doesn't have the stamina to keep bobbing up and down for a long enough period of time. Also, this is a JDM motor ******, so remember that it was born on the other side of the planet. They drive on the right side of the road over there in the southern hemisphere so you have your shit all mixed up. If this were a Ford, Toyota, or other US make car you would be correct. But this is a longitudinally mounted JDM block so you're straight up wrong. The oil must go to the head. How do you think it gets there? You pour your oil in the valve cover--- where do you think it goes? It stays right there and hence the need to control the camshat frothing action. You STFU and stay right there on my kiwi.

southernmx5 08-01-2010 10:40 PM

I watched a buick shat a cam once. True story ;p

redfred18t 08-01-2010 11:04 PM


Originally Posted by faeflora (Post 610529)
Wrong. They call it MAIN BEARING support plate because your toothpick sized neck just doesn't have the stamina to keep bobbing up and down for a long enough period of time. Also, this is a JDM motor ******, so remember that it was born on the other side of the planet. They drive on the right side of the road over there in the southern hemisphere so you have your shit all mixed up. If this were a Ford, Toyota, or other US make car you would be correct. But this is a longitudinally mounted JDM block so you're straight up wrong. The oil must go to the head. How do you think it gets there? You pour your oil in the valve cover--- where do you think it goes? It stays right there and hence the need to control the camshat frothing action. You STFU and stay right there on my kiwi.



http://www.memedepot.com/uploads/0/2...if_serious.jpg

Aricjm15 08-01-2010 11:41 PM


Originally Posted by faeflora (Post 610529)
Wrong. They call it MAIN BEARING support plate because your toothpick sized neck just doesn't have the stamina to keep bobbing up and down for a long enough period of time. Also, this is a JDM motor ******, so remember that it was born on the other side of the planet. They drive on the right side of the road over there in the southern hemisphere so you have your shit all mixed up. If this were a Ford, Toyota, or other US make car you would be correct. But this is a longitudinally mounted JDM block so you're straight up wrong. The oil must go to the head. How do you think it gets there? You pour your oil in the valve cover--- where do you think it goes? It stays right there and hence the need to control the camshat frothing action. You STFU and stay right there on my kiwi.

Fuck why did I even put the oil pump back in my motor? It cant pump shit since its on the bottom.

18psi 08-01-2010 11:41 PM

I am stunned by the amount of retardation in this thread:facepalm:

Aricjm15 08-01-2010 11:55 PM


Originally Posted by 18psi (Post 610623)
I am stunned by the amount of retardation in this thread:facepalm:

The "oil pan" is a lie.

Mobius 08-02-2010 12:07 AM

This is pretty funny - just remember though, don't go full 'tard. Don't ever go full 'tard, man !

Bond 08-02-2010 12:37 AM


Originally Posted by Mobius (Post 610633)
This is pretty funny - just remember though, don't go full 'tard. Don't ever go full 'tard, man !

How did the head gasket repair go, buddy :giggle:

faeflora, shouldn't you be knotching a frame rail somewhere...

BradC 08-02-2010 08:27 AM


Originally Posted by FRT_Fun (Post 610352)

This needs repeating as I think maybe Mr. sawzall missed this the first time...

Braineack 08-02-2010 08:30 AM

I love how this thread went from laughing at someone on cr.net to this...


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