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Retarded. Seriously retarded. The whole thing.
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How much do M3's normally sell for?
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So an M3 can be nearly 100k? Arent M5's around that price? Or for that matter that ugly new Nissan?
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hell, we used to "adjust" prices on toyota priuses by 3-5K depending on option package they had
not just when new, well into its production cycle
supply<demand=mark-up
not just when new, well into its production cycle
supply<demand=mark-up
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WOW, thats nuts! Wait 1 year and they will all be 20k cheaper.
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Not in Canada! The dealer can not ad in a markup value, the most they can sell for is MSRP + options. Those "options" can include dealer bullshit at a huge markup, but there is no way you'd ever see this type of insanity.
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Not in the clear yet.
Hey guys
Sorry I havent been posting any updates, I apologize for that as I have been under a gag order, and couldnt talk. These past 2 days, which have felt like an eternity have been pretty frustating, as Im not one to keep it all bottled up inside of me.
So here is where we are at. Up to now, I think a somewhat rosy outlook was kind of intimated, as I myself had posted that we were working towards resolution. Im not so sure of that.
This whole ordeal, to say the least has been pretty stressful, and I never imagined it would get this big. Not to mention uncharted territory for me. I now have an attorney representing me. I got in touch with Scott Tepper, who specializes in internet law and business litigation. Scott has been phenomenal, and his experience in these types of cases really show.
On monday, everything culminated into a huge firestorm at the dealer. Channel 8 news was calling for a interview, in addition to the BBB, Ebay, CNN and MSNBC. All wanting to speak to the dealer in regards to these sales practives. So thats what was happening as I spoke to the dealer on monday morning.
So the dealership proposed "conditions" as part of the deal.
First, they wanted to say I could not sell for a number of years. This condition has since been removed, thanks to Scott.
The one that really bothers me though, is this one.
The dealership wanted me to assist in defusing the situation, in letting the sites I contacted know that I was getting my deal. I didnt mind doing that,as long I was JUST that. I had no intention of becoming a pawn for this dealer, not after the way they treated me!
SO I went out and contacted Channel 8, Ebay, BBB and m3post to let everyone know things were moving in a positive direction. But in subsequent conversations, I got placed under the impression that the dealership really isnt sorry for anything they have done here. Their attitude, it seemed was that I am to blame for the firestorm that culminated, implying that I wasnt being proactive enough in getting the word out Hello? Did you not see the international outrage from this situation? Root cause, gentleman. Introspection.Why are hundred of thousands of people around the world so pissed? Until they get it, im under the impression that nothing will change. All the above is just
Did anyone see this newspaper article?
Absolutely ridiculous!
http://www.journalstar.com/articles/...e060113124.txt
“These bloggers out there, they have lots of time on their hands to do this.”
Did it ever occur to the dealership that they created a situation that compelled complete strangers to MAKE time? They dont get it, if they cant see that. So Im left as confused as ever.
So as you can see, it hasnt exactly been smooth sailing here.
I'll post again when I have an update.
Thanks
Ken
Sorry I havent been posting any updates, I apologize for that as I have been under a gag order, and couldnt talk. These past 2 days, which have felt like an eternity have been pretty frustating, as Im not one to keep it all bottled up inside of me.
So here is where we are at. Up to now, I think a somewhat rosy outlook was kind of intimated, as I myself had posted that we were working towards resolution. Im not so sure of that.
This whole ordeal, to say the least has been pretty stressful, and I never imagined it would get this big. Not to mention uncharted territory for me. I now have an attorney representing me. I got in touch with Scott Tepper, who specializes in internet law and business litigation. Scott has been phenomenal, and his experience in these types of cases really show.
On monday, everything culminated into a huge firestorm at the dealer. Channel 8 news was calling for a interview, in addition to the BBB, Ebay, CNN and MSNBC. All wanting to speak to the dealer in regards to these sales practives. So thats what was happening as I spoke to the dealer on monday morning.
So the dealership proposed "conditions" as part of the deal.
First, they wanted to say I could not sell for a number of years. This condition has since been removed, thanks to Scott.
The one that really bothers me though, is this one.
The dealership wanted me to assist in defusing the situation, in letting the sites I contacted know that I was getting my deal. I didnt mind doing that,as long I was JUST that. I had no intention of becoming a pawn for this dealer, not after the way they treated me!
SO I went out and contacted Channel 8, Ebay, BBB and m3post to let everyone know things were moving in a positive direction. But in subsequent conversations, I got placed under the impression that the dealership really isnt sorry for anything they have done here. Their attitude, it seemed was that I am to blame for the firestorm that culminated, implying that I wasnt being proactive enough in getting the word out Hello? Did you not see the international outrage from this situation? Root cause, gentleman. Introspection.Why are hundred of thousands of people around the world so pissed? Until they get it, im under the impression that nothing will change. All the above is just
Did anyone see this newspaper article?
Absolutely ridiculous!
http://www.journalstar.com/articles/...e060113124.txt
“These bloggers out there, they have lots of time on their hands to do this.”
Did it ever occur to the dealership that they created a situation that compelled complete strangers to MAKE time? They dont get it, if they cant see that. So Im left as confused as ever.
So as you can see, it hasnt exactly been smooth sailing here.
I'll post again when I have an update.
Thanks
Ken
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It's bad ethics on the dealer's behalf. None the less, he said that he could have gotten the car in the colors he wanted for just a few grand more. Now the dude's got a lawyer on retainer, so he'll get the car in the color he doesn't want, deal with aggravation, deal with out of state transportation, waste a bunch of time, and probably spend more money. So he's a doucher. He had the right to be pissed, but now he's only bringing misery on himself.
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Sometimes in life its about sticking it to the man instead of bending over and taking it in the ***.
Problem is, too many companies and even people think they can do stuff like that people, and while his lawyer may be free, and the aggravation not worth a heart attack and all the other related bs, its good that he's doing what 99% of the rest of the people out there wouldn't do.
Let them honor their contract. I am sure if it were to turn into a civil matter they would have to pay his lawyer fees as well as other costs associated to their breach of contract.
Only people that are douchers are those that get fucked and accept it.
Problem is, too many companies and even people think they can do stuff like that people, and while his lawyer may be free, and the aggravation not worth a heart attack and all the other related bs, its good that he's doing what 99% of the rest of the people out there wouldn't do.
Let them honor their contract. I am sure if it were to turn into a civil matter they would have to pay his lawyer fees as well as other costs associated to their breach of contract.
Only people that are douchers are those that get fucked and accept it.
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