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Old Aug 2, 2011 | 01:56 PM
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ah i didnt watch first, no embed.
Old Aug 2, 2011 | 03:29 PM
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**** this sucks......


Old Aug 2, 2011 | 03:39 PM
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23% humidity... and your complaining?!?!?!?!

it was in the 3 digits here last week with >50% humidty. Tomorrow calls for 95° with 60%.
Old Aug 2, 2011 | 03:50 PM
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I hope all the climate deniers are getting bubble gum stuck on their shoes.
Old Aug 2, 2011 | 04:00 PM
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Originally Posted by Braineack
23% humidity... and your complaining?!?!?!?!

it was in the 3 digits here last week with >50% humidty. Tomorrow calls for 95° with 60%.
Yesterday it was 103 and 46%

Originally Posted by y8s
I hope all the climate deniers are getting bubble gum stuck on their shoes.
http://news.yahoo.com/nasa-data-blow...192334971.html


NASA satellite data from the years 2000 through 2011 show the Earth's atmosphere is allowing far more heat to be released into space than alarmist computer models have predicted, reports a new study in the peer-reviewed science journal Remote Sensing. The study indicates far less future global warming will occur than United Nations computer models have predicted, and supports prior studies indicating increases in atmospheric carbon dioxide trap far less heat than alarmists have claimed.
Study co-author Dr. Roy Spencer, a principal research scientist at the University of Alabama in Huntsville and U.S. Science Team Leader for the Advanced Microwave Scanning Radiometer flying on NASA's Aqua satellite, reports that real-world data from NASA's Terra satellite contradict multiple assumptions fed into alarmist computer models.
"The satellite observations suggest there is much more energy lost to space during and after warming than the climate models show," Spencer said in a July 26 University of Alabama press release. "There is a huge discrepancy between the data and the forecasts that is especially big over the oceans."
In addition to finding that far less heat is being trapped than alarmist computer models have predicted, the NASA satellite data show the atmosphere begins shedding heat into space long before United Nations computer models predicted.
The new findings are extremely important and should dramatically alter the global warming debate.
Scientists on all sides of the global warming debate are in general agreement about how much heat is being directly trapped by human emissions of carbon dioxide (the answer is "not much"). However, the single most important issue in the global warming debate is whether carbon dioxide emissions will indirectly trap far more heat by causing large increases in atmospheric humidity and cirrus clouds. Alarmist computer models assume human carbon dioxide emissions indirectly cause substantial increases in atmospheric humidity and cirrus clouds (each of which are very effective at trapping heat), but real-world data have long shown that carbon dioxide emissions are not causing as much atmospheric humidity and cirrus clouds as the alarmist computer models have predicted.
The new NASA Terra satellite data are consistent with long-term NOAA and NASA data indicating atmospheric humidity and cirrus clouds are not increasing in the manner predicted by alarmist computer models. The Terra satellite data also support data collected by NASA's ERBS satellite showing far more longwave radiation (and thus, heat) escaped into space between 1985 and 1999 than alarmist computer models had predicted. Together, the NASA ERBS and Terra satellite data show that for 25 years and counting, carbon dioxide emissions have directly and indirectly trapped far less heat than alarmist computer models have predicted.
In short, the central premise of alarmist global warming theory is that carbon dioxide emissions should be directly and indirectly trapping a certain amount of heat in the earth's atmosphere and preventing it from escaping into space. Real-world measurements, however, show far less heat is being trapped in the earth's atmosphere than the alarmist computer models predict, and far more heat is escaping into space than the alarmist computer models predict.
When objective NASA satellite data, reported in a peer-reviewed scientific journal, show a "huge discrepancy" between alarmist climate models and real-world facts, climate scientists, the media and our elected officials would be wise to take notice. Whether or not they do so will tell us a great deal about how honest the purveyors of global warming alarmism truly are.
Old Aug 2, 2011 | 04:03 PM
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Originally Posted by y8s
I hope all the climate deniers are getting bubble gum stuck on their shoes.
I love how when we have cold winters, the GW criers fall all over themselves to point out that local, seasonal temps are not proof one way or the other, but when we have hot summers, they can't help but imply that it's evidence of anthropomorphic climate change.
Old Aug 2, 2011 | 04:08 PM
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Originally Posted by mgeoffriau
I love how when we have cold winters, the GW criers fall all over themselves to point out that local, seasonal temps are not proof one way or the other, but when we have hot summers, they can't help but imply that it's evidence of anthropomorphic climate change.
I'm sorry, but they can't tell me what the weather TOMORROW is going to be like with ANY certainty at all, so I'm supposed to believe what they think the next 10 years is going to be like?

ib4 "meteorologists aren't climatologists blah blah blah"
Old Aug 2, 2011 | 04:33 PM
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My Kuhmo's on the Protege have 85k and they're shot. Found a really killer deal on 4 Hankook Ventus V2's. Anybody have experience with them? Have a set of Hankook Ventus RS-3's which rock, but they're not all seasons...


Old Aug 2, 2011 | 05:14 PM
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Originally Posted by elesjuan
After sifting through that guy's venemous epithets and denialism like "alarmist computer models" (next time link to the scientist source, not the heavily biased "smoking isn't bad for you" editorialist), it sounds like they are simply saying that climate change is potentially less sensitive to carbon emissions than current models shown.

BUT the UAH (univ alabama, huntsville) record of temperature data still shows an upward trend.

Also NASA says 2010 ties 2005 for warmest year on record.
http://www.giss.nasa.gov/research/news/20110113/


Originally Posted by mgeoffriau
I love how when we have cold winters, the GW criers fall all over themselves to point out that local, seasonal temps are not proof one way or the other, but when we have hot summers, they can't help but imply that it's evidence of anthropomorphic climate change.
I was mostly making a joke. When we have a blizzard in DC, climate deniers are ALL OVER THE PLACE. They don't publish much in summer. The original journal article was published in May...
Old Aug 2, 2011 | 05:31 PM
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Pressure: 29.91 in

Visibility: 7.0 miles
Clouds Few: 9000 ft
Scattered Clouds: 15000 ft


Humidity: 61%
Temperature: 73 °F
Dew Point: 59 °F
Wind: 12 mph from West

This is current Pt Mugu weather... SUCK IT!
Old Aug 2, 2011 | 05:57 PM
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Old Aug 2, 2011 | 06:01 PM
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who would they go after in this case:

http://wusa9.com/news/article/161065...-Costs-Mom-500
Old Aug 2, 2011 | 06:06 PM
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RANDOM PICTURE THREAD REMINDER


Old Aug 2, 2011 | 06:09 PM
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Originally Posted by elesjuan
**** this sucks......


Boohoo. Here today we had a high of around 101 with heat index of 110-115, and dew point in the upper 70's, humidity around 60% at noon. Walking out of the cool shop going across the black parking lot to my car for lunch was like stepping into hell.
Old Aug 2, 2011 | 06:13 PM
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Originally Posted by Braineack
who would they go after in this case:

http://wusa9.com/news/article/161065...-Costs-Mom-500
Sometimes people take laws too far and enforce them too strictly without thinking of the situation, and this is a prime example.
Old Aug 3, 2011 | 12:26 AM
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AAAAAAAWWWWWWWWWWWWWW YYYYYYYYEEEEEEEAAAAAA

Old Aug 3, 2011 | 01:14 AM
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I don't know why they even bother forecasting it. It's not like it ever changes.
Old Aug 3, 2011 | 01:46 AM
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Originally Posted by Joe Perez


I don't know why they even bother forecasting it. It's not like it ever changes.
I don't want to start some huge pissing match, but it's a damn shame California's politics are so screwed up. It could be such a great place to live...
Old Aug 3, 2011 | 07:55 AM
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Ewww Atlanta.

Old Aug 3, 2011 | 08:06 AM
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take that. Remember this is WITHOUT the heat index.



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