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I know you're a heavy MB nutswinger now, but there's a really good reason why that 100k+ car is sold for 30 within only a few years.
Not that the caddy is holding value, but at least you can fix the caddy problems with cheap easy to find parts, which was my point
Mercedes never, economically, makes sense. Money aside, sure they're fantastic.
It's true and I am an old man at heart, but something is truly hilarious watching a FWD hatch on slicks only run into the 12s, when the MK7 GTi on a set of slicks and a tune will get into the 11s.
I test drove a BRZ and a couple of 2017 camaros yesterday. The BRZ was surprisingly good. Great chassis, perfect size, decent steering, but it's really let down by the engine. It would probably be a blast with 250 whp, and it looks like there are CARB approved supercharger kits, but I'm not sure that I want to go down that rabbit hole. Still, a used BRZ/FRS and a supercharger kit plus supporting mods is very affordable.
I also drove a 2LT RS and a 2SS camaro. The RS had surprisingly good power and sound for a V6. I can absolutely see why some say that the V6 RS with dual mode exhaust is the best deal. The 2SS was stupid fast and sounded great, but overall both cars felt kind of insulated and uninvolving (granted the test drive loop was pretty boring). Add to that the gigantic size and terrible visibility, and I don't think it's the car for me. Plus, a 1SS w/ 1LE package is ~$45k, which is more than I'd like to spend. It's a shame because I think both powertrains are among the very best on the market.
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From what I've seen, the supercharger kits have been out for a while so you can accurately gauge reliability etc. If you're just going to street drive it and use the miata for shenanigans (autox etc) it would be a pretty awesome balance.
Very light, nimble, all the automotive journalists loved the last one. Has lots of great commuting features like lane keep assist, adaptive cruise control (can do stop and go traffic for you) and if you can keep it under 60 miles you don't use any gas.
Oh, and 297 ft-lbs of torque.
I test drove a BRZ and a couple of 2017 camaros yesterday. The BRZ was surprisingly good. Great chassis, perfect size, decent steering, but it's really let down by the engine. It would probably be a blast with 250 whp, and it looks like there are CARB approved supercharger kits, but I'm not sure that I want to go down that rabbit hole. Still, a used BRZ/FRS and a supercharger kit plus supporting mods is very affordable.
I also drove a 2LT RS and a 2SS camaro. The RS had surprisingly good power and sound for a V6. I can absolutely see why some say that the V6 RS with dual mode exhaust is the best deal. The 2SS was stupid fast and sounded great, but overall both cars felt kind of insulated and uninvolving (granted the test drive loop was pretty boring). Add to that the gigantic size and terrible visibility, and I don't think it's the car for me. Plus, a 1SS w/ 1LE package is ~$45k, which is more than I'd like to spend. It's a shame because I think both powertrains are among the very best on the market.
From what I gather (having owned a BRZ for a couple of years now), keep it under 300whp, with a good tune and oil cooler, and don't beat it like a rented mule constantly and you'll be OK.
If I could cure my car-hopping disease and decide on one do-it-all car, I think a BRZ with the Jackson Racing rotrex kit and their combo radiator/oil cooler would be amazing. I previously owned a 2015 BRZ for 6 weeks. The stock engine is so joyless around town, but I do like how it revs. The rotrex would fill in that cavern in the lower-end torque curve, yet let it actually pull hard on the top end!
The obvious solution here is an LT2 swaped brz with a roof rack for Scott's rug
Originally Posted by astral
Here's an interesting option...
2017 Chevy Volt.
Very light, nimble, all the automotive journalists loved the last one. Has lots of great commuting features like lane keep assist, adaptive cruise control (can do stop and go traffic for you) and if you can keep it under 60 miles you don't use any gas.
Oh, and 297 ft-lbs of torque.
Originally Posted by x_25
For a DD FRS/BRZ I would be all over one of these kits for a little more go juice.
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