Attention, viperormiata! (Nerd Alert!)
 

I just wanted to let you know that Captain Dallas approves of your avatar.


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That is all.

Actually, I just noticed something. In Dallas' bio, he is listed as having served aboard US.S.C.S Shusett, a vessel registered to the Tyrell Corporation.

How have I managed to not see this glaringly obvious easter egg until 27 years later?

it appears maybe you missed that fact in the short stint when you had a friend to hang out with.

lolwat

this is interesting, where is this from?

I'm glad someone noticed.

If you had any idea how much I was into this. I'd sell my penis to work for Weyland Yutani. Hell, I'd settle to be crew on the Nostromo and be bunk mates with Ash. In all fairness, I don't think the Hyperdyne Systems 120-A/2 deserves all the hate it received. The system worked....

Joe, I uploaded my facebook cover for you. Try not to giggle too much.

Joe, I think he would approve of my avatar.

You know, Dallas really did all he could do. I'd honestly say I would crew for him. Kane is the lucky one. Sounds weird, but I think Kane's luck was being able to avoid the events to occur on the Nostromo (I know, sounds bad even put that way).

And it's hard to blame Ash for letting him on board. Think about it.... xenomorphs. Imagine what we could do with a single hive of face huggers and some select species from our planet.

Newborn anyone?

Edit: Both posts make it seem like I'm rooting for Weyland Yutani and the actions of Ash but, I think you'll understand what I'm trying to say.

Oh, yeah. Those were the days. Sometimes when I lie in bed at night, I can still hear that gurgling, choking sound she made as the life oozed out of her tattered body.


In the Aliens movies, Weyland-Yutani is the name of a gigantic, corrupt, multinational conglomerate which functions as a de-facto state. They have investments in military research, heavy manufacturing, children's toys, energy production, shipbuilding, bulk space cargo transport, healthcare, financial services and terraforming. (I'm probably missing a bunch of others.)

Basically, imagine if Google, Microsoft, Toyota, Boeing, Mitsubishi Heavy Industries, Raytheon, Meyer Werft, IBM, Harris, Blackwater, Wal-Mart, Exxon, Proctor & Gamble, General Electric, Samsung, Morgan-Stanley and the Dutch East India Company all merged together into one giant corporation, with Gordon Gekko as CEO. Their motto is "Building Better Worlds."

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In the first film (1979), Capt. Dallas was the captain of Nostromo, a deep-space heavy cargo transport on its way back to earth with a load of ore. It encounters the Alien, everyone dies except for Sigourney Weaver, etc. The Nostramo was owned and operated by Weyland-Yutani.

In the second film, Weaver has been rescued from the little escape pod in which she'd been drifting through space (in hibernation) for more than 50 years. She is brought back to earth, and subsequently grilled by Weyland's insurance / liability folks, on the grounds that she did, in fact, blow up the ship and destroy its cargo (she did this at the end of the first film, in order to kill the Alien and escape.)

During that scene, the screenshot posted above is briefly shown as part of a bio on all of the other members of the Nostramo crew who perished. You will note that Dallas is listed as having previously served aboard a ship owned by the Tyrell Corporation prior to his employment with Weyland-Yutani.


This is an easter egg. In the movie Blade Runner, which came out a couple of years prior to the sequel to Alien, the Tyrell Corporation is depicted as being somewhat similar to Weyland-Yutani. They are a massive company with shady business relationships. Tyrell is involved in various unspecified "off-world" activities, and has, among other things, engineered an entire race of synthetic humanoids (officially called Replicants, informally known as skin-jobs) which act as a sort of slave class.


Bonus trivia:

In the 2004-2009 Battlestar Galactica TV series, the humanoid Cylons are sometimes pejoratively referred to as "skin jobs" by the human colonists. The origin of the Cylons, from the point of view of the colonists, is the same as that of the Replicants from the point of view of the humans in Blade Runner; prior to rebelling, they had been created as a servant-class and sold as commercial products.




Ok. I know this is going to be hard for everyone else to believe, but you are waaaaaaay more of a geek about this stuff than I could have imagined.

Which is to say that I couldn't have quoted the manufacturer and model number of Ash off the top of my head.

I can, however, tell you which episode of Firefly contains a product manufactured by The Company.

You get it. I tried to explain it to a friend who was interested in borrowing my quadrilogy. He said, "so it's like Microsoft?"...Next time I will use your explanation.

I'm actually beaming with pride because I take this as a compliment.

If you guys think that I am nerdy when it comes to Neon Genesis Evangelion....this is a whole new world of obsession.

I have this show in my Netflix Instant and I am excited to watch it for the first time. I missed it when it was on tv.

Wow. I knew most of this already. I didn't think the tyrell in that screen shot would have been the same as the one in BR. I'm a huge sci-fi buff and love this kind of stuff. The Cylons and the replicants while very similar, we're also very very different, as you obviously know. But at the same time, I find it amazing that Mr Weyland never inserted his consciousness into one of his Davids. I just didn't ever remember seeing that screen shot in particular. Maybe it flashed by too quickly for me to notice.

While on the subject, do you guys take Prometheus as canon to the story line?

So is Ash a Nexus 6?

Wouldn't it have made more sense to use a Bishop? Or did Weyland die prior to that model being created?

I'll admit that I'm unfamiliar with David. I've found a couple of hits on Google, but I'm afraid I can't place this model in the context of anything I remember seeing. Did it ever exist outside of the comic books? (I'm not really much of a comics fan.)


It was highly incidental, just sort of running in the background while the Company lawyers were grilling Ripley on the events of the past / presenting exposition to the audience.


Oddly, I hadn't even heard of it until you posted this. It has been downloaded and is sitting on the media server at home awaiting my arrival.



Are you thinking Leon Kowalski or Roy Batty?

Actually, the Replicants (even the Nexus models) are in a totally different class from the Synthetics.

Skin-jobs were never meant to act as humans, despite their appearance and (presumably) organic composition. They are clearly a slave class, intended to do the dirty work without putting a lot of thought into it. This is the whole reason that the Nexus-6 model was finally designed with a four year timeout- to prevent them from living long enough to gain enough life experience to develop human-like emotional responses.

Contrast this with the synthetics. Even though they are very clearly mechanical in nature, they seem to have been intended to integrate seamlessly with humans. Ash's identity was a surprise to the Nostramo crew, and The Company clearly meant for it to operate among the humans on board without giving any indication that it was different from them.

By the time of the colonization of LV-426, the social attitude towards synthetics seems to have changed in the direction of increased acceptance. The Bishop aboard USS Sulaco is known to all of the crew to be a synthetic, and yet they seem to treat it (more or less) as an equal. Additionally, it appears to possess something resembling at least a limited suite of genuine emotions, including pride, embarrassment, and sympathy. This differentiates it from the earlier Ash models, which did not seem to exhibit emotions of their own, aside from those necessary to simulate human behavior for the purpose of maintaining their disguise.

I suppose it could be argued that Rachael (who was never clearly identified by model) possesses characteristics similar to those of the later-model Synthetics. She appears to have been intended to generate and process emotions.

Who knows. Was Deckard a prototype Nexus as well?

I used to think I was a geek until I joined this site. Now I know I'm not nearly as bad as I thought I was.

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thought i was a scifi nerd, these 2 blow me out of the water :(

This thread makes me so happy.

I know what you're asking, and the answer is yes, I do have H.R. Giger art on my walls (the only time I have ever taken anything down or hid something because a female was coming over) and plans for xenomorph/Weyland-Yutani tattoos.

Joe, have you seen the H.R. Giger inspired Ibanez guitars?

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Blade Runner and Alien universes may be the same | TG Daily

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Peter Weyland from Prometheus:

This thread will explode once Joe sees Prometheus.

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You are kidding! Firefly is excellent. Really good character development in that show. I hope you like it. Don't forget to follow up the series with the movie, Serenity, which ties up a few loose ends they didn't have a chance to explain during the series before it was cancelled. There are a couple of departures from the original series in the movie, but I forgive them those because it was such a good ensemble of cast and writing.

Joe, you have to watch Prometheus, you will either rage or embrace the canon even more. I dont want to give away any secrets now.

this won't give away too much, but definitely fun to look at.

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Firefly was a hell of a good show. Not by any means deep and replete with serious social commentary, just a fun space-western in a style I'd not seen before.

Personally, I kind of disliked Serenity. It felt kind of forced to me, like "Here, we have made this movie for the sole purpose of responding to all the fanmail we've received over the past few years."

It wasn't horrible by any means, I was just expecting something different.

It was a very clever joke in which i was trying to say he has no friends.

Odd. I just watched Blade Runner (Final Cut) two nights ago. It had been a while since I'd last seen it, and my wife had never seen it. Really enjoyable.

I just noticed that Firefly is only listed as 14 episodes long. What happened?

What else? FOX.

I don't have cable....might be a good thing. Seems it can be really disappointing, lol.

FOX isn't cable.

This thread is the answer to the question: why are most miata owners lonely and single?

says the guy with 16,000+ posts :noob:

feels good to get paid for all of em ;)

Serious? You know all that Alien trivia but you haven't heard any of the internets talking about Firefly?

It was an awesome show with a good following, so FOX cancelled them. There was a huge internet petition to get the show back, it didn't work.


Joe, you should look into Revolution. Same theory, Joss Wedon, colorful, slightly sci fi, and focused around a couple hot chicks.
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The reason for my avatar change was not just blatant fanaticism.

It's for this! Aliens: Colonial Marines.

I have been so stoked since I saw the trailer last year. There are so many things that make this great and authentic (to some respect). The pings from the motion tracker (as well as the sweeps), the sound of the M41A Pulse Rifle (I'm seriously hoping that the PN30 grenade launcher sounds the same)....and of course, the M56 Smart Gun... :x: I see they kept the crane system with the built in IR. The sentry systems look perfect and they link up like they should. AND the M240 Incinerator Unit.....fuck yes, fuck yes.

I'm really, really hoping they include the correct grenades for...those times when you just can't escape. Vasquez :-(

M577A3 APC - I haven't confirmed if they'll have the Republic Electric RE700 20mm guns or not, but I sure as hell hope so. Mind you these gatling guns shot depleted uranium rounds.

UD-4L Dropship - I've seen the Cheyenne in the trailers but I'm not sure if it's just for nostalgia or if you'll be able to pilot it and drop the APC. I'll just have to wait to find out.

I'm really curious of the xenomorphs in the game. They got the Hive Warrior correct. I know the developers will probably put their own spin on some new xenos. The "spitter" looks interesting. Seems to have a self destruct thing going on. I'm stoked.

I'm also curious if they will have any androids like Bishop escorting the Colonial Marines. You know, Bishop (341-B) was a serious step up from Ash (120-A/2). Neither of them were Weyland directly (alleged), but I wouldn't be surprised if Bishop was also Hyperdyne Systems in conjuction with Michael Bishop.

This will be taking place on Acheron LV426....:party:

Edit: Holy crap, the plamsa cutter XD

It's not trivia, it's more than that. This is the first I've ever had a chance to spout out some Alien knowledge. I can give you full names of every character, job titles, all weapons (and ID numbers), manufacturer names, all vehicles and ships (ID numbers and origins), the Weyland family history and dates (not so much Yutani), etc...It's been easy because I was raised on these movies.

I've heard people talking about it, but never looked into it. That sucks that it was cancelled. Did FOX ever give a reason why?

Just a few more weeks!

I can't wait to feel like Hicks. If they have a loader...omg omg omg...


Just for fun, why not a newborn?
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Well, it's official. I have been out-nerded. :D


According to FOX, it was just a simple numbers game. The show had extremely high production costs, and it wasn't generating huge ratings. (The latter had a lot to do with the fact that the network parked it in a Friday night timeslot, which is historically a shitty place for a new show to be.)

Think back to the state of network TV in 2002. Reality shows were still fresh and new. And in addition to being "all the rage" among viewers, they were also extremely cheap to produce. No sets, no costumes, no effects, no actor's salaries, no location shooting... In terms of profit margin, programs like "Survivor" were right up there with professional wrestling- highly profitable, and easy to make. It was a hard paradigm for any scripted program to compete against.

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So do I need to go watch all the alien movies this weekend to figure out what is going on?

Absolutely. They are fantastic movies.

Thank you guys. I got on my Scifi mood again. I watched total recall, Blade Runner (final cut), and Clockwork orange. I'll make sure to watch all 4 Alien movies, Prometheus, Logans Run, Soylent Green, and THX-1138 this week.

This.....now this....is some shit.

It is 6:09am and I am about to start Alien.

Hehe.

So Prometheus was decent. Not sure why some of the reviewers really panned it hard. Kind of weird seeing an entirely new set of characters populate an old, familiar universe, but worth watching at any rate.


Looking back on that shot above of the Newborn reminds me of something. Is Joss Wheadon familiar with the concept of pressure differentials?

So, NB's backside was pressed up against a window with a little hole in it. It looked a lot smaller than 1 sq. in., but we'll say that that's how big it was to make things easy.

While older-gen spacecraft typically used pure O2 in a partial-pressure environment (4-5 PSIA, typically), modern spacecraft such as the Shuttle, the ISS and the Soyuz maintain a cabin atmosphere comparable to that of earth; nitrogen/oxygen blend at around 14.5 PSI.

Let's assume that in the 24'th century, spacecraft construction is at least as sound as today, and that the Betty also maintains an earth-like atmosphere for the comfort of the crew. The pressure hull, therefore, is subjected to an outwards force of ~ 14.5 pounds per square inch when it is operating in space. And therefore, any foreign body (such as the backside of an alien) which is acting to cover a hole in the pressure hull is also subjected to that same force.


Take your finger, and press on your backside with a force of 14.5 pounds. Did your finger pierce your skin?

I have often mused over the description of space as a "vacuum". A vacuum is a negative pressure as I understand it, but space is more of a zero pressure environment. I get that it is less than sea level pressure but it isn't technically a vacuum, right?

No perfect vacuum exists in nature, but outer space is the closest thing as I understand it -- only a handful of atoms in a given cubic meter.

Well, the term "vacuum" is just a relative measurement- when one region is at a lower pressure than another region. We consider there to be "vacuum" in the intake manifold, because the pressure there is typically less than atmospheric pressure. On the surface of uranus, a jar containing a gas at 50 PSI would be considered to contain a vacuum, as that pressure would be lower than the surrounding atmospheric pressure.


To mgeoffriau's point, it's true that an "absolute vacuum" is more-or-less impossible, however from a practical perspective, most of what we consider to be "space" is close enough that it doesn't really matter. At 100 km altitude above Earth, the pressure is about 3.2 × 10−2 Pa (0.000032 kPa), so if the reference pressure (inside the spaceship) is 100 kPa, the difference between 0 kPa and 0.000032 kPa on the outside of the spaceship is so insignificant that it is barely worth noting. It would certainly not make one bit of difference as to whether or not your body would be extruded through a hole with an area of 1 square inch because of it.

So I saw some guy walking around my campus earlier today with the weyland yutani corp shirt, and thought back on reading this thread and actually knew what it meant.

Just thought I'd share :D

MT.net: spreading the geek.

ftfy

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fun read : List of references to Aliens in Halo - Halo Nation

We are getting so close, Hicks...we are coming.

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Ok, the first thing that came to me, as soon as I saw the word "Tyrell" was.... Dallas? Corban Dallas?

MULTIPASS!

Ok, I give up. How does Tyrell figure into the Fifth Element?


Also, Josh, I'm slightly saddened that you haven't noticed the location in my profile.

This has me thinking, as well. The Fifth Element is also one of my favorite sci fi movies. I've never tried to make a connection between it and other movie worlds, though.


I noticed it now. That's awesome :cool:

Joe, did you watch the video of the game play footage for Colonial Marines? What's impressing me the most so far is the guy who is in charge of production. He's a total Alien freak and will probably wipe the floor with me if we compared Alien knowledge.

I guess I need to watch the director's cut...

It's easy. I am SO out of touch with pop culture and hollywood that I actually confused Harrison Ford with Bruce Willis.

I'm a worthless human being. They DID both have Dallas in their names.

I did.

To be honest, I'm just not that into computer gaming these days. At least, not the sort of "look at this massive, ultra-realistic environment that we have created for you to explore, with an immersive storyline and lots of campaigns and so forth" type that seem to be all the rage these days.

I do love me some Team Fortress 2, though. Mostly because it's simple and doesn't require a huge commitment of my time. There are no storylines, no continuity, no save-points, no need for me to really become invested in it. I can just log in and spend a few minutes shooting ridiculous weapons at cartoonish buffoons running around a small map, and that's that.

So I walked past a coworkers desk today and noticed a familiar picture.
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That is his background on his 30" apple display.

Engage Nerd Mode! Maximum Power!

I don't normally do wallpaper, but you guys convinced me. I modified one I found online to give it a somewhat more sophisticated / realistic look:

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You can grab it if you like:

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Yutani actually existed as a Japanese industrial manufacturer and in the early 80's was purchased to become a subsidiary of the Kobe Steel company (Kobelco) and was also at one point involved in a joint venture with Mitsubishi Heavy Industries subsidiary MDI on some hydraulic excavators .

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I know it is something else, but every time you guys mention Yutani that is what I think of.

How very interesting.

The canonical account of the origin of W-Y claims that the name was selected essentially at random. Specifically, in the book "The Authorized Portfolio of Crew Insignias from The United States Commercial Spaceship Nostromo Designs and Realizations," Ron Cobb, who was a set and costume designer for the original film, writes:* = In the original Alien movie, it was in fact spelled "Weylan" rather than "Weyland". The company's name is never actually spoken aloud by any of the cast, however. They simply refer to it as "The Company" in all on-screen dialogue. The logo and name are visible only incidentally in the background on certain areas of the ship and on certain uniform pieces. In the 1986 sequel Aliens, James Cameron created a much larger role for W-Y, authoring an extensive back story and re-designing the logo into the form commonly known today. It was at this time that the trailing D was added to Weyland, however I can find no information as to whether this was intentional or merely an accident.


Bonus trivia: In Alien³, the name Weyland-Yutani appears on screen numerous times in both English and Japanese, written as ウェイランド湯谷. Joss Whedon (original author of Alien Resurrection) later re-used this theme in his television show Firefly. Set in the 26th century, part of the back-story involves a giant multi-national conglomerate which bears a strong and intentional resemblance to W-Y. Reflecting the economic landscape of the early 2000s (in contrast to the late 1970s), The Blue Sun Corporation is an American-Chinese partnership. Their logo appears prominently in many locations, and is almost always displayed in both English and Chinese (as 篮日) one above the other.

Ironically, there are a number of companies in operation on present-day Earth with the name Blue Sun. They include an aircraft charter and maintenance service, a Biodiesel refinery, and a software consulting firm for spacecraft control systems. In the Firefly universe, these are precisely the sort of divisions which one might expect a conglomerate such as Blue Sun to own.

Joe, thank you for the nice wall paper.

Steve, I totally did not just search ebay for a used Yutani manual.

Speaking of awesome. I'm re-watching the movies (Anthology Blu-Ray set) to get in shape for the new game. I still have a hard on for this woman....

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Also a fun watch if you're interested in just how much video games and other things related to sci fi, have ripped things from Alien and Aliens.

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