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Old 05-26-2009, 10:34 PM   #1
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Default Battlestar Galactica (spoilers, if you haven't seen the ending.)

So tonight I finally found the time to watch the final episode, making me quite possibly the last person on earth who actually gives a **** to do so.

That was just... epic.
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I would still like to watch the series in its completeness.
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I would still like to watch the series in its completeness.
Which ones have / haven't you seen? I've got the whole thing on DVD and AVI.


I'm still pretty floored about how they went out. I was so afraid, all the way to the end, that they were going to ***** out, make peace & love all around, etc. But I haven't seen such an amazing blend of intensity, emotion, radical character development, and shoot-em-up action like this since... ever.

I mean, you remember during 'Exodus' when the colonists were pinned down at the gate, hope faded from their eyes, and right at that moment Galacta jumps right in over their heads and all hell breaks loose? Heck, that whole battle only lasted, what, 10 minutes of screen time? From the moment those Raptors jumped straight out of the flight pod (leading to its destruction) you kinda knew that this was gonna be a big one. And hot damn, it just kept going and going. Even the flashback sequences barely gave you time to regain composure before the assault on the senses resumed.

So, I'd intended to re-watch the episode on the plane today, however I found out that my little laptop, despite being wonderful in every other way, lacks the ***** to play x264 at anything more than about 0.5 FPS. The regular Divx version is currently downloading at a manly ~8kB/sec. Still, some observations...


The opera house: Wow. I don't know if they planned it that way all along, but it really all came together, didn't it? "It's all very clear to me now. The whole thing. You see, something's going to happen. Something wonderful." - the man who was David Bowman.


HeadSix / HeadBaltar: Ok, so they real, but what are they? They can't actually be God / the gods, as HeadSix has always referred to The One True God in the singular third person, as someone separate from herself. Are they angels, are they some sort of Metatron-like beings? Does this mean that the real Baltar and Caprica Six are to be afforded prophet status for being the only ones to see them? Or were they just in the right place at the right time?


The Hybrid's prophecy: I'm 50/50 here. "You will lead them all to their end" would seem to make sense. Assuming that "end" is interpreted as "destination" or the end of a journey, and that "all" means only humans plus those cylons allied with them, then Kara's clever last-minute interpretation of Hendrix did exactly that. On the other hand, how is she "the harbinger of death?" Granted, traditional Cylon civilization has been more or less wiped out, but that wasn't Starbucks fault. She didn't conceive the mission, she wasn't flying the Raptor that got punk'd by that asteroid, she really played no role at all in that particular part of the story.


Kara: Who / What the hell is she? How can she just vanish like that? Was she "special" before the crash / reappearance, or is the entity which we perceive as Starbuck now something more than just a replica of the original?


Cavil: WTF? Ok, so from his perspective, he was just deceived and betrayed by both the colonials and the five, his whole world has fallen to pieces, and he is defeated. So just like that, he decides to paint the ceiling with his brains? No! Cavil would have gone out fighting. He had a clear shot at Adama, the five, pretty much everyone who, from his perspective, had just fucked him over. "From hell's heart I stab at thee; for hate's sake I spit my last breath at thee." -Captain Ahab.


"When he reached the new world, Cortez burned his ships. As a result, his men were well motivated" - Cpt. Marko Ramius. Ok, so they wanted to break the cycle. But taking all those ships, with all their technology and modern conveniences (like indoor plumbing, power generation, etc) and just throwing them into the nearest star... That's pretty extreme. During the colonization of New Caprica, those vessels capable of landing were landed and used as housing, and those vessels unable to enter the atmosphere were kept in a parking orbit with a skeleton crew aboard.
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First off, I loved the finale as well, you're making me want to see it again. I have seasons 1, 2, 2.5, and 3 on DVD, is 4 out yet?

They followed a Star Trekish plot which was to preserve new life without disturbing it (prime directive). Reminded me a bit of Voyager, where that line was used way too much, and I didn't much care for that show. The point of the ending was to be a little spooky, saying that we're all possible descendants of the Galactica fleet. If they had parked the ships on the ground or left them in orbit, we would have uncovered them by now, 2009.

I considered Six/Baltar to be angels, but I have no idea what Kara is/was. Obviously she was something different after the crash, but what? They seemed to tie everything into our (Earth's) religious and physical history fairly well, but I couldn't think of anything obvious to explain Kara.

I did like how they made the chief out to be the original Irishman, he certainly drank enough and started enough fights.
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I haven't seen past the second season...


I may have to start torrenting them and watching them now that I'm graduated and unemployed. I saw a few from the 3rd season...but didn't get enough to get the entire story.



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First off, I loved the finale as well, you're making me want to see it again. I have seasons 1, 2, 2.5, and 3 on DVD, is 4 out yet?
According to Amazon.com, 4.0 is out, 4.5 will be Jul 28. But that's what uTorrent is for.



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They followed a Star Trekish plot which was to preserve new life without disturbing it (prime directive).
See, I didn't get that at all. First, they decided that they could breed with them. (Caveman sex- kinda gross if you think about it.) Then they decided that they could give them language, which they appeared to lack. Kinda the polar opposite of the PD, and really the one element of the whole "let's stay here" premise that seemed in tune with the characters.

But- if they did show up 150,000 years ago, and started building houses and doing all the other things that exiled members of an advanced technological society might be expected to do (making fire, alloying metals, building wheeled vehicles, etc., then why were we still at that level of technology 145,000 years ago, and only within the past couple of centuries have we rediscovered things like electricity, motorized propulsion, etc. Putting myself in their shoes, I just can't see throwing it all away.

I don't mind being left with a few questions. It would be out of character for them to wrap everything up with a bow on it, but this just smacks of implausibility. If they'd have shown up and discovered that the foundation for a big pyramid was being laid out, maybe.

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If they had parked the ships on the ground or left them in orbit, we would have uncovered them by now, 2009.
On the ground maybe, though I imagine that 150,000 years would have more or less destroyed them. In orbit however, they would have lasted only a few tens of years at most. Orbits tend to decay over time. Spacecraft such as satellites are capable of correcting their orbits, but once the fleet had exhausted its fuel supply, it'd have fallen out.


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Obviously she was something different after the crash, but what?
I dunno- was she different? She didn't seem to think so. But this is the one that really bugs me. Perhaps she was the same as HeadSix and HeadBaltar, one which everyone was able to see.



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I haven't seen past the second season...
Oh, man. That's just brutal! S02 was a bit of a drag, but S03 was when things really started to get deep and introspective.
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If you havent already, there are Q and A's with the writers of the show on the net. The questions you asked have already been answered.

If you cant find it, ill link you tonight.
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Upon re-reading, a new perspective emerges:

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I considered Six/Baltar to be angels, but I have no idea what Kara is/was. Obviously she was something different after the crash, but what? They seemed to tie everything into our (Earth's) religious and physical history fairly well, but I couldn't think of anything obvious to explain Kara.
In keeping with the show's foundational religious undertones, perhaps she is the original metaphor for Jesus? The savior, dead and resurrected, who redeems humanity and then vanishes.
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