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Old 08-16-2009, 08:14 PM
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I have a Samsung Blackjack II that I know nothing about and only ever use to make and receive phone calls. I got it as a hand-me-down from the wife who got if as a hand-me-down from my mother.

The iPhone's interface blows everything else I've ever seen out of the water. Anything that other phones can do (like write apps and do crazy internet stuff) is above my head anyway.

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Phones are fun. I'm a gadget kinda person and like neat **** like this.

Just got one of these. Its a T-Mobile MyTouch 3G.



Not an iphone killer, but the service in all is cheaper at a minimum than what you have to pay monthly on the iphone.
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I loathe ATT's service over all, I'm not going to defend them. I like my phone enough though that I put up with it.
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i must be the only guy in the world who doesn't have a problem with ATT
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I haven't had any problems with them either, been with them since they were Cingular.
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Originally Posted by y8s
i must be the only guy in the world who doesn't have a problem with ATT


I don't, works for me.
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Originally Posted by y8s
i must be the only guy in the world who doesn't have a problem with ATT
Do you use their data services? If you do and you don't take issue with the lack of speed then you must be a slowski. In which case I will make turtle soup out of you.
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Blackberry > *

I have had many many phones of the years, and even spent a fair share of time selling cell phones both as an authorized dealer and in a corporate store and I will say this with complete conviction, blackberry, hands down are the best phones available on the american market and probably the global market as well.
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I used to hate on iPhone's and then I got one and realised that simply put... it is the best out there. You can do all the other **** on phones but unless you're a nerd or like using **** interfaces there is just no comparison.
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I used to be a Treo addict (loved the good ol' PalmOS); now I'm addicted to my Curve 8330. Only think I dislike about it is the trackball. It gets stuck a lot. That's very frustrating.
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Originally Posted by Saml01
Blackberry > *

I have had many many phones of the years, and even spent a fair share of time selling cell phones both as an authorized dealer and in a corporate store and I will say this with complete conviction, blackberry, hands down are the best phones available on the american market and probably the global market as well.
I have one and I dont use any of the apps. What I do use it for is email and calls. It fails miserably when it comes to dropping calls, missing calls. Calls come in, they never ring and all of a sudden I have another voicemail. I hate this thing. But it's free, the service is free from work so whatever. At least my boss's bb misses a lot of calls, too so when I just don't feel like taking someone's call from work I can blame it on the shitty phone.
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Originally Posted by Stein
I have one and I dont use any of the apps. What I do use it for is email and calls. It fails miserably when it comes to dropping calls, missing calls. Calls come in, they never ring and all of a sudden I have another voicemail. I hate this thing. But it's free, the service is free from work so whatever. At least my boss's bb misses a lot of calls, too so when I just don't feel like taking someone's call from work I can blame it on the shitty phone.


Lol, very useful when your pissed off at someone.
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Originally Posted by curly
Can your old *** 2003 phone do all that?
EVDO R1? Yes.
1.3mpx Camera? Yes.
VGA Video? Yes.
Media player? mp3, mp4, mpeg full motion video, divx, xvid, etc. Yes.
Make and receive phone calls? Yes.
Internet music? Yes.
Mobile web Browsing? Yes. The "Whole internet."
Google maps program? Yes.
Facebook program? Yes.
Full QWERTY HARDWARE keyboard? Yes.
USER REPLACEABLE BATTERY?? Yes.
Extended life battery? Yes.
Not a shitty hacked up AMPS architecture? Check!
Can I write my own programs for it? Yes.
Is it a thin dick piece of equipment? No.
Did it cost me more than 100$? No.

Thats about its only downfall, its about the size of a deck of cards. Its actually an old *** 2004 phone. It didn't have GPS onboard, but with a bluetooth GPS module, it'd even do navigation with google maps.



Honestly I really don't give two ***** about the cell phone circle jerk. I have a shitty sprint touchscreen phone right now (well, given the day of the week determines if I hate it or like it..) which pretty much does everything I could need it to do. Admittedly I get a little joy out of starting **** between haters and the isheep apple obsessors, its very surprising how upset some people can become defending Steve Jobs and the crap he peddles.

Stroke on, Gents.
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Originally Posted by y8s
Jitterbug?
Had to look that one up.

No, it's a Kyocera phone, and as you can see from the display and the silkscreen below it, the carrier is Virgin Mobile. I use their prepaid plan, since there are some months when I'm on the road constantly (heavy phone usage) and others where I'm pretty idle (light phone usage).



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@Joe - Congrats on showing you internet surfing abilities, and I'm sure you've seen Pirates of Silicon Valley the same as I.
Ironically, I finally just saw that a couple of months ago, though I'd read Fire in the Valley when it came out. The book was OK, but the film adaptation just sucked.

If you have a serious interest in the early history of Personal Computers, there are a couple of good ones that I really recommend. The first (and the granddaddy of 'em all) is "Hackers" by Steven Levy. This actually starts out in the late 50s / early 60s, at the dawn of interactive digital computing, and covers a lot of the goings on at MIT and SAIL, focusing heavily on the TMRC crowd (which I love). Part II covers the homebrew era and the dawn of the micro, and Part III gets into the software scene of the early 80s, mostly the game companies (which is interesting, if you were a fan of Ken Williams and Lord British back then.)

Cringely's "Accidental Empires" was pretty good. A bit light on technical accuracy from time to time, but a really neat character piece.

Then there's "Hard Drive", which is basically the early life of Bill, Paul & Steve, from Harvard (including Traff-o-Data), through Albuquerque, and finally into Redmond. It was written in 1993, so it's a trifle dated (and a tad self-serving in places) but still interesting.

Of more recent vintage, the best one I've seen for the Apple camp is "iCon: The Greatest Second Act in the History of Business." This one basically covers all of Steve from the blue box days to preset (well, present = 2006 anyway). What I really liked about this one was the one of neutrality and objectivity. "Hard Drive" was a little bit too much of Gates-worship, but iCon sorta tells it like it is, showing both the genius and the *******. It talks about The Fall from both sides of the fence, has a lot of good detail on the Disney Debacle, etc. Just a thumping good read all around.


Another good one I have to recommend to everybody (even though it's about black-hatters and mainframes and not Bill & The Three Steves), is "The Cuckoos Egg." Seriously, just go out and buy it. Open a new tab in your browser, go to Amazon.com (or half.com) and order it right now. I'll wait. I've purchased at least a dozen copies of this book over the past 20 years, as I keep loaning them to people and never getting them back.


Going further back in time, "A Few Good Men from Univac" was a good read. Hard to find, but worth it if you're into early computing history. Ditto "ENIAC: The Triumphs and Tragedies...". Unlike a lot of books that cover this era, these are all about the people & places- the technology is almost incidental.


And of course, I've still got "Dealers of Lightning" and "Where Wizards Stay Up Late" sitting in the unread pile.




The fact remains that products that see the light of day that come out of their doors rely on his say so, for the most part. How much of a smashing success was apple before he came back to the company?
No question there. Just trying to debunk the myth that Jobs is in any way an engineer. He never was. In the early days, he rode on Woz's engineering prowess, his one achievement being to recognize that the circuit board which Woz had been cobbling together in his spare time had business potential, and pulling together the funding to make that happen. After that, he contributed nothing at all for many years, and did a lot more harm than good, alienating a lot of good people and sowing divisiveness within the company.

The problem was always that Jobs thought he was a competent designer, and the early years reflect this. Jobs did a small amount of coding on the original Apple 1, but Espinosa & the gang took over as soon as the company started making money. After the II came out, it was pretty much just one failure after another, with Jobs leading the charge into oblivion all the way. There's a reason they got rid of him, after all.

After that, he pissed millions of dollars of venture capital away at NeXT, then he took over Pixar (which at the time was just a pure-research firm with no actual products or direction) and pissed away millions more trying to turn their technology into a marketable piece of hardware for use in MRI/CAT applications, architechture, etc. SGI crushed them, and it would have been game over for Pixar had a couple of guys in the back room (so to speak) not been "wasting" company time creating little animated short films that just so happened to start winning Academy Awards.

Point is, Steve had some growing up to do before he could come back. His moment of revelation was when he realized that, as a hardware designer and an engineering manager, he sucked. But as a futurist and cult leader, well, he was actually pretty good.

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I'll have to check out some of those books. Wonder if I can get them on google since I have a ton of time at my new job. Being a LAN Admin is a hard life :P
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Originally Posted by kotomile
I haven't had any problems with them either, been with them since they were Cingular.
I've had them through all their name changes off and on with some Sprint in the middle. For a while I had an AT&T simcard after they changed to cingular and thought it was funny that just as they changed back to AT&T I got a new cingular simcard. I think I'm finally current again. anyone remember Cellular One?

Originally Posted by neogenesis2004
Do you use their data services? If you do and you don't take issue with the lack of speed then you must be a slowski. In which case I will make turtle soup out of you.
I can browse miataturbo.net and check email. it's good enough for that.

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Had to look that one up.

No, it's a Kyocera phone,
Ahh Kyoto Ceramic Corporation! I used to deal with them at my old job when we ordered teenie tiny pressed or machined ceramic parts for medical devices.
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Just got an iPhone today, and promptly discovered something that I doubt a lot of the competition can do:
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My blackberry is capable of firing missiles, dividing by zero, and it has a small magnet inside it that attracts a huge quantity of cats continuously.
Also, it was so cheap that they actually gave me money to take it.

/win
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