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Turbo_4 04-29-2009 04:06 PM

Creatine
 
Anyone try taking it to help build muscle? From what I've heard for negative effects(if you could even call it that) is a crazy sex drive and a lot of mood swings...I guess because of the increased testosterone. Other than that I really don't see any issues with it. I've been taking it for about a week and have put on about 4lbs so far(working out 3 times a week plus twice more at home). Just curious of others peoples experiences with it. And please, leave the gheyness out of this thread:giggle:










































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nicacus 04-29-2009 04:23 PM

I personally use the blood of virgins to build muscle.

Prospero 04-29-2009 04:23 PM

I used to take creatine with a high protein diet with 2 hours / day workouts. Went from 330 LBS down to 128 LBS in 16 months. Was able to lift 300 LBS no problem and built some insane lean muscle.

The creatine was good for giving the extra push at the end of the workouts where generally I would get tired. It was like an extra 15 min of cardio or 5 more reps! Loved the stuff but hated the drug tase it left in my mouth.

As far as mood swings and sex drive... never noticed a difference. Was a horny and moody bastard anyhow.

Cheers,
Prospero

Turbo_4 04-29-2009 04:26 PM

We'll I'm currently at 170 and hoping for 200 within the next 6 months.

Vashthestampede 04-29-2009 04:34 PM

I took creatine for about a 6 month period maybe 5-6 years back. A couple of my friends that played baseball were taking it so I got me some. I definitely noticed results after a couple weeks. Just make sure you drink tons and tons of water, and don't push it, take whats recommended.

I don't take it anymore and really don't need to, but when I was younger and wanted to bulk up a little it sure helped speed things up.

miatauser884 04-29-2009 04:37 PM

I used it in grad school for a while. Best bet is to workout with your diet and protein. Cycle through high reps lower weight and low reps high weight. When you start to hit a wall with strength. (ie you aren't increasing the weight you lift much from week to week) Add in the creatine. It will take a week to saturate in your system. You'll start to notice a crazy increase in strength.

Like anything else though, you'll eventually hit another wall, and more creatine won't help. Cycle off of it on a three week high rep low wait so you don't notice the drop in strength as much.

The weight you gain immediately is all water. Sorry. It screws with urination though. It took a long time for my body to get back to normal. I think it messes with your kidneys, but that's my personal observation.

Saml01 04-29-2009 04:42 PM

Took it for a while on and off over the last 3 years of training and concluded it did nothing for me so I stopped wasting money on it.

99% of the supplements sold are are purely marketing and nothing more. The gains you notice are completely placebo effect.

I used to have a massive protein shake consisting of 8 separate ingredients which became an expensive luxury. I slowly started experimenting by removing and adding them to test what happens. Discovered other then protein and carb everything else was useless.

gospeed81 04-29-2009 04:49 PM

Took it for a year and a half, though it really helped me, and saw weight gain.

Weight gain is mostly water, and now that I'm hitting the gym again, I'm bulking up just as fast as I did then (old fart now too), but without the creatine.

When I started taking it I had to piss every friggin' hour, and still do unless I drink NOTHING but water for a few days. Strange.

miatauser884 04-29-2009 05:00 PM

quit playin with your prostate godspeed and it wouldn't be so enlarged. Then you won't have to piss so much. :giggle:

gospeed81 04-29-2009 05:07 PM

what did hustler tell you?

miatauser884 04-29-2009 05:10 PM

I was wondering when hustler's name would grace this conversation. Where is he????? Hustler has a way with words.

Prospero 04-29-2009 05:32 PM


Originally Posted by djp0623 (Post 402223)
I was wondering when hustler's name would grace this conversation. Where is he????? Hustler has a way with words.

Oh, I'm sure he will be here sooner or later. Tho I gotta ask, what's a CHP doing on this board? Sorta the minority to find guys like yourselves in with car junkies! Good to see that all of the CHPs I know still have hope :)

Cheers,
Prospero (RSO)

the_man 04-29-2009 06:03 PM

Some foods are naturally high in creatine. Tuna comes to mind.

msydnor 04-29-2009 06:50 PM


Originally Posted by Saml01 (Post 402196)
Took it for a while on and off over the last 3 years of training and concluded it did nothing for me so I stopped wasting money on it.

99% of the supplements sold are are purely marketing and nothing more. The gains you notice are completely placebo effect.

I used to have a massive protein shake consisting of 8 separate ingredients which became an expensive luxury. I slowly started experimenting by removing and adding them to test what happens. Discovered other then protein and carb everything else was useless.


False. Many supplement don't work but there are many that do. creatine is one that does. Creatine has no affect on sex drive, that is a myth. It does not increase testosterone, that is also a myth.

msydnor 04-29-2009 06:50 PM


Originally Posted by the_man (Post 402258)
Some foods are naturally high in creatine. Tuna comes to mind.

Red meat is one of you best sources of creatine.

msydnor 04-29-2009 06:57 PM

If your diet and workout is up to par, creatine will work for you, I should say, most people. Do not take excessive amounts. 10 gram which is what most product suggest on the label is ample. More is not better, once your body uses what it can (about 10 gram per day) you will just piss out the rest. It wont hurt you, but you are just wasting money. It will not cause kidney problems, that is another myth that came from early sciene speculation. Make sure you inject a lot of water when on creatine. Reason is, creatine pulls subcontanious water into the muscles. Drink shit loads of water when using creatine, it helps it work. Stay away from the liquid creatine, it doesn't work.

nicacus 04-29-2009 07:04 PM

All I know about creatine is that we do a shit ton of piss tests for it every freaking day.
I could probably get some info from an actual doctor if you want

msydnor 04-29-2009 07:19 PM


Originally Posted by nicacus (Post 402272)
All I know about creatine is that we do a shit ton of piss tests for it every freaking day.
I could probably get some info from an actual doctor if you want


That makes no sense. Why would you be piss tested for creatine? It is not illegal, or a controlled substance. You can buy it at a Wal-Mart, drug store, grocery store, etc. What would they do to you? Nothing, you have done nothing wrong. In general, a doctor is the wrong person to ask. Most general practitioners are ignorant to supplements. Unless it is a sports medicine doctor you will get bullshit answers. I used creatine for well over 10 years. I was a competitive body builder over 2o years. Granted that does not make me a genius on the subject, but I know a lot both from years of research and practical application.

the_man 04-29-2009 07:25 PM


Originally Posted by msydnor (Post 402275)
That makes not sense. Why would you be piss tested for creatine? It is not illegal, or a controlled substance. You can buy it at a Wal-Mart, drug store, grocery store, etc.

Not to mention that it's naturally occurring in EVERY PERSON'S BODY and the vast majority of peoples' diets as previously noted. So pretty much everybody would test positive, unless they're strict vegetarians.

nicacus 04-29-2009 07:31 PM

I'm looking in our labs fridge right now, there's about 100 tubes waiting to be tested for it. Dont ask me why they test for it... I'm no doctor


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