The "dietary fat/cholesterol causes heart disease" myth
The theory that dietary fat and/or cholesterol causes heart disease was based on completely fudged data and then the data fudger got on the board of the American Heart Association. After that, armies of researchers kept on looking for supporting data and throwing away contradictory data. This went on for >40 years. Incredible.
What is so shocking about all this isn't that one guy falsified data; it's that for decades the mainstream research establishment never corrected the mistake. Armies of researchers kept looking for supporting evidence and dismissed evidence that falsified the initial hypothesis. And then the gov't put its weight behind the theory. The rest is history... of the bad "eat low fat" advice, and the resulting increasing rates of obesity, diabetes, heart disease, high blood pressure, and possibly cancer. The fudger was Ancel Keys, the study was the "7 countries study", which showed a direct correlation between % of fat calories, and heart disease rates. The fudge? He hid the data from 15 other countries which didn't show the correlation. Some of the details of the sham are discussed here: 314: Chris Masterjohn On The Health Benefits Of Cholesterol | The Livin La Vida Low-Carb Show A shorter article: http://www.nytimes.com/2007/10/09/sc...pagewanted=all |
My coworkers tell me I'm killing myself with a high fat diet.
Down 130lbs and still making huge gains in the gym while running 6 minute miles at over 200lbs, lol. The "lipid hypothesis" is the biggest load of horseshit and it sucks to see so many people struggling with weight when they are being told that low calorie, low fat is the way to do it. Getting sucked into these "diet" plans of awful, pre-made food that's all filler, super low calorie, but jacked in sodium and horrible carbs. They eventually starve themselves from a huge calorie restriction/deficit and proceed to burn muscle at an alarming rate and either put it all back on or end up looking like pudding. |
There are 2 distinct but related, old hypotheses:
- The "blood lipid" hypothesis: blood lipid causes atherosclerosis and heart disease - The "dietary fat" hypothesis: dietary fat and/or cholesterol causes heart disease Both are false. |
Love fat.
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Enjoyed reading this thread while eating my breakfast of eggs, bacon, and coffee with coconut oil.
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LOLz. When I get up in the morning, I look forward to having a nice cup of said bulletproof coffee.
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Steak and eggs this morning. Yum.
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have been ignoring fat content for years and have the great cholesterol numbers to prove it. I never eat low fat anything unless forced.
ok not ignoring trans fats, just avoiding those. As far as cholesterol causing X Y Z, can't an autopsy show if there's crap in your arteries and determine what it is? |
Originally Posted by JasonC SBB
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The theory that dietary fat and/or cholesterol causes heart disease was based on completely fudged data and then the data fudger got on the board of the American Heart Association. After that, armies of researchers kept on looking for supporting data and throwing away contradictory data. This went on for >40 years. Incredible.
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Originally Posted by JasonC SBB
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LOLz. When I get up in the morning, I look forward to having a nice cup of said bulletproof coffee.
The guy seems to be trading off the same rap of another nonsense guru, that being Timothy Ferriss. |
Originally Posted by Harv
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The bulletproof coffee thing sounds like complete nonsense. The key nonsense being avoiding "toxins" or "detoxing" which has no basis in science at all.
You think toxins are imaginary? |
Originally Posted by mgeoffriau
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LULWUT?
You think toxins are imaginary? |
Originally Posted by Harv
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Not sure if serious. The whole detoxing thing is complete nonsense. Detox diets, colon cleansing all of a piece.
You said avoiding toxins has no basis in science. I'm asking if you believe toxins exist or not. Are there things that, if ingested or absorbed by the body, are detrimental to one's health? |
Originally Posted by mgeoffriau
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That's not what I asked.
You said avoiding toxins has no basis in science. I'm asking if you believe toxins exist or not. Are there things that, if ingested or absorbed by the body, are detrimental to one's health? Is it just a coincidence that this guy has labeled normal coffee as having "toxins" and sells a line of coffee that does not have these "toxins?" |
Originally Posted by Harv
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No, that's not what I said, I said avoiding "toxins" as in the things that these guys label as such that aren't really anything like real toxins. It's a scare tactic that has no basis in science.
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The first answer here sums up my thoughts about this guy and what he is peddling. food safety - Are fungal toxins a significant problem in coffee, and if so, can they be avoided? - Seasoned Advice I'm sure this will not convince you at all as you obviously have a significant defense mechanism built up around the mycotoxin topic. |
Originally Posted by Harv
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I'm sure this will not convince you at all as you obviously have a significant defense mechanism built up around the mycotoxin topic.
Mostly I just find the overly-reductionistic approach common to those stuck in a 1950's health and nutrition mindset to be generally irritating. But it's funny that you essentially missed the reason Jason linked to that post -- it has nothing to do with toxicity or detoxing. |
The fact that he adds oil and butter to the coffee? I got that, but the site is still nonsense.
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