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Old 12-06-2007, 04:43 PM   #21
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This is the kind of **** that worries me. I have a coolradiator 2.5" rad, but I think I'm going to need more. I should probably get off my *** and drive down to SanAntonio to get that FM hood. So you still have not had any successful track outings?
I did ok before I plugged up my front end with a huge IC. I guess the smaller IC allowed air to go around it and through the radiator much easier...so think twice about that huge, cool looking but not neccessary intercoolers.
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I did ok before I plugged up my front end with a huge IC. I guess the smaller IC allowed air to go around it and through the radiator much easier...so think twice about that huge, cool looking but not neccessary intercoolers.
I bought the big one from BEGi. I hope it works out.
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Old 12-06-2007, 04:51 PM   #23
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just ******* run it, and fix what breaks, and learn from your mistakes.
That is so true Braineack. I must admit though, when I was pegging my temp guage, it did affect my concentration a little. Oh yeah, one other thing I forgot about that happened that same event, my steering wheel started to work lose. So here I was, 130 on the back straight, pushin' on the steering wheel so that it stayed on the splines, watching my temp guage hoping that my motor wouldn't sieze up and I had 20 minutes left in the session. Needless to say, my instructor had no clue and I was not going to pull into the pits and call it a day after I paid all that money to run on the track all weekend!
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Cooling system mods I've done to combat heat issues include the FM hood, removing the front mouth black plastic reinforcement and install abs plastic to aim air at the IC and radiator, run the OEM belly pan, install a diy front splitter/pan along with a GV front spoiler, seal around my FM radiator with foam insulation, as well as around the sides of the radiator to force air into the right places, install an external oil cooler/remote filter assembly, coolant reroute from back of head to upper radiator, 180 thermostat, 20% Zerex G05 coolant, 80% distilled water, one bottle of RMI-25, add foam to the OEM fan shrouds, run the OEM fans parallel. With the MP62 I was seeing maybe 94C coolant temps during 40 minute sessions at Sebring. I am expecting the temps to change with a turbo setup. The external cooler/remote filter assembly increased oil capacity by a quart which also helps. Amsoil 10w40 engine oil helps as well.

What I don't like are the turn signal intakes or anything that may take away from airflow through the radiator. Anytime someone installs something such as a TSI it takes away from the cooling system's abilities since it's pressurizing the engine bay from somewhere other than through the radiator. If something were made to keep the TSI air contained at the air filter, and not allowed to flow through the entire engine bay then it may not be as bad.
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Cooling system mods I've done to combat heat issues include the FM hood, removing the front mouth black plastic reinforcement and install abs plastic to aim air at the IC and radiator, run the OEM belly pan, install a diy front splitter/pan along with a GV front spoiler, seal around my FM radiator with foam insulation, as well as around the sides of the radiator to force air into the right places, install an external oil cooler/remote filter assembly, coolant reroute from back of head to upper radiator, 180 thermostat, 20% Zerex G05 coolant, 80% distilled water, one bottle of RMI-25, add foam to the OEM fan shrouds, run the OEM fans parallel. With the MP62 I was seeing maybe 94C coolant temps during 40 minute sessions at Sebring. I am expecting the temps to change with a turbo setup. The external cooler/remote filter assembly increased oil capacity by a quart which also helps. Amsoil 10w40 engine oil helps as well.

What I don't like are the turn signal intakes or anything that may take away from airflow through the radiator. Anytime someone installs something such as a TSI it takes away from the cooling system's abilities since it's pressurizing the engine bay from somewhere other than through the radiator. If something were made to keep the TSI air contained at the air filter, and not allowed to flow through the entire engine bay then it may not be as bad.
You and I are on the exact same page with everything in this post. Where did you mount your oil cooler? I have a 24 row and still don't know where I'm going to put it. I have done or will do everything you're doing and have the BEGi scooper if that doesn't work. I really need to go pick up that FM hood.
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The hood makes a noticeable improvement in temp management and reduction of front lift. The oil cooler is mounted to the radiator. It was a kit from ISC Racing, very nice for the price IMO. The TDR IC may be shorter than the largest BEGI IC, but Gary really did some excellent designing of the airflow management components of the kit. His kit's not just an IC and some tubing. The FM radiator is not as large as that Godspeed radiator guys are buying btw. If I need more cooling down the road, I'll probably make my own fan setup with 2-12" fans and some abs plastic from a local distributor. For now, the OEM fans are adequate. I think the scooper will help. I don't remember the size of the oil cooler, but I think it's smaller than 24 rows. I kept the OEM water to oil cooler in place, so I don't use an oil thermostat. I figure the coolant helps bring the oil up to temp, then they sort of help each other. I don't know what the oil temps are, I don't have a gauge, but I did use an IR gun on the pan a couple times and the oil temps were well within range as I recall. I know the IR gun isn't as accurate as a probe gauge, but whatever. I may do some temp testing once a turbo replaces the SC since the coolant and oil are going to pull double duty.
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you should have just bought a truck as a daily driver and bought a cheap open trailer, then who care about reliability
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you should have just bought a truck as a daily driver and bought a cheap open trailer, then who care about reliability
The fact that you spent 250$+ on the track event + gas + time, only to blow up 10min into your first 20 min session?

I am doing everything possibly to keep the car reliable before I even touch a roadcourse. AutoX/Drag/Street could care less. Lapping is what rapes a car.
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you should have just bought a truck as a daily driver and bought a cheap open trailer, then who care about reliability
no ****...considering the subaru gets a whopping 20mpg.
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Sell the miata to fund your diaper supply you ******* baby!
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awesome anigif, I use Calibre Maximo as my avatar on forums where we get avatars.
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you have no idea how cool that looks when you are really drunk
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