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Joe Perez 07-12-2016 09:52 AM


Originally Posted by Dann0 (Post 1345576)
I have been looking at the Forney 125 flux welder on Amazon as a possible alternative to the Harbor Freight unit, but one of the reviewers said he hooked his multimeter up to it and found that it was putting out AC as well, rather than DC electrode negative.

I didn't sift through all the reviews to find that one comment, but I can tell you that in any DC power supply with a rectifier-based output (and, really, all a MIG welder is is a big DC power supply), there will always be ripple on the output. And when measured with a multimeter, this ripple will show up as an AC waveform.

Like, if you look at a PWM-controlled circuit under the hood, like the idle valve. PWM DC isn't the same thing as true AC, but a multimeter can't tell the difference.

This is one reason why oscilloscopes are so nice; you can use them to visualize the magnitude of the ripple relative to the DC carrier, to determine whether or not it's going to be a big deal.

kevinspann 07-26-2016 08:09 PM


Originally Posted by shuiend (Post 1345110)
I have the 20 ton and I am very happy with it. I wouldn't expect the 50ton to be any worse.

I'm probably going to pick one of these up in the next couple months. Any issues with yours? I've heard the arbor plates kinda suck, but I hopefully won't use it for anything crazy. Just wheel bearings and the like.

shuiend 07-27-2016 09:31 AM


Originally Posted by kevinspann (Post 1349189)
I'm probably going to pick one of these up in the next couple months. Any issues with yours? I've heard the arbor plates kinda suck, but I hopefully won't use it for anything crazy. Just wheel bearings and the like.

No issues so far, but I have never used a better one so I have nothing to compare it to. It had worked fine so far for removing all the control arm bushings. Trying to figure out a way to press out rear bearings next. Then I need someone to help me hold my diff so I can press out those bushings.

Leafy 07-27-2016 10:37 PM

The 20 is the one to get. Some reports of the cast arbor plates exploding, swag parts makes plate steel ones.

Dann0 07-28-2016 04:09 PM

Well I just picked up this charmer on Craigslist for $50:

https://cimg4.ibsrv.net/gimg/www.mia...ea56a2a099.jpg

Add in my $27 of additions:

https://cimg5.ibsrv.net/gimg/www.mia...20d7c3536b.jpg

And another $10 of incidentals, and I'm going to get a capable little welder for really cheap.

Supe 07-30-2016 07:20 PM


Originally Posted by kevinspann (Post 1349189)
I'm probably going to pick one of these up in the next couple months. Any issues with yours? I've heard the arbor plates kinda suck, but I hopefully won't use it for anything crazy. Just wheel bearings and the like.

No problems here, either, other than wishing I had an air over hydraulic ram for it. Used it several times for wheel hubs and bearings. Surprisingly heavy duty for what it is.

triple88a 08-05-2016 12:56 AM

Not a harbor tool but definitely pretty cool.

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aidandj 08-05-2016 01:09 AM

Picked up the 14" cutoff saw the other day.

It works. Things get cut.

$60 with coupon

y8s 08-05-2016 09:27 AM


Originally Posted by triple88a (Post 1351674)
Not a harbor tool but definitely pretty cool.

https://www.facebook.com/5min.crafts...0669303742324/

Tell me why this is significantly better than large diameter wheels or the cool tank tread things. Does it not roll down stairs?

triple88a 08-05-2016 10:25 AM


Originally Posted by y8s (Post 1351697)
Tell me why this is significantly better than large diameter wheels or the cool tank tread things. Does it not roll down stairs?

Because with large wheels you are still stuck with going over the corner of the stair with the full diameter of the wheel while with this the "diameter shrinks".

The tank threads would have to be too long not to get caught on each stair.

18psi 08-05-2016 10:49 AM

bought more of those windshield repair kits from HF

they still work okayish, but for some reason the glue doesn't dry anywhere near as effectively as the ones I got before. kinda annoying, since it's like 100F here, way hotter than the time I used the last set

y8s 08-05-2016 12:20 PM


Originally Posted by triple88a (Post 1351710)
Because with large wheels you are still stuck with going over the corner of the stair with the full diameter of the wheel while with this the "diameter shrinks".

The tank threads would have to be too long not to get caught on each stair.

I get it.

https://lh5.googleusercontent.com/-R...l_catenary.gif

Dann0 08-13-2016 07:16 PM

So I finally got around to my Harbor Freight 90a welder project. Pretty simple stuff - routed the power on the far side of the main transformer through a 150a 1200v bridge rectifier, to convert the AC to DC. Mounted the rectifier on the outside of the case for better cooling.

http://i54.photobucket.com/albums/g1...a.jpg~original

Sent the positive and negative output from the rectifier to a bank of three 63v 22000uF capacitors, wired in parallel, with a 10w 150ohm bleed resistor.

http://i54.photobucket.com/albums/g1...1.jpg~original

Electrode was wired to negative, ground clamp to positive. I also added a 90mm computer fan for better cooling.

http://i54.photobucket.com/albums/g1...v.jpg~original

Total cost for this whole operation, including the cost of the welder, was less that $90. For that money, and for my hobby needs, I suspect this is going to be a capable little machine. Now I guess I have to weld something!

aidandj 08-25-2016 05:36 PM

Has anyone tried the HF safety wire pliers? Junk? Or useable?

acedeuce802 08-25-2016 06:35 PM

They're usable, but pretty darn bad. The only thing I've used them for are TSE 2-piece rotors, and it was a pain. I'm used to using very legit pliers from aircraft spruce, so maybe it's just me. But you kind of have to assist the pliers to twist, and assist them to retract. They also don't clamp very evenly so you have to make sure you're clamping the wire in the spot that actually makes contact.

Leafy 08-25-2016 06:37 PM


Originally Posted by aidandj (Post 1356575)
Has anyone tried the HF safety wire pliers? Junk? Or useable?

Useable. But if you find the ones that look different for like under $50 buy those instead. The real ones twist the wire easier.

aidandj 08-25-2016 06:37 PM

Links to better ones?

Rob80 08-25-2016 06:52 PM

https://cimg9.ibsrv.net/gimg/www.mia...c3bad11406.png

https://cimg2.ibsrv.net/gimg/www.mia...d24988ee6.jpeg

Bought this a year or two ago. Thing has been great. Made my own stainless manifold .

Savington 08-25-2016 07:07 PM


Originally Posted by aidandj (Post 1356575)
Has anyone tried the HF safety wire pliers? Junk? Or useable?

I used my pair for a very long time before they finally stabbed me bad enough that I made sure my Tetanus shot was up to date. I bought an ~$80 pair on Amazon that are reversible and they are only slightly better. A nice pair ($100++) is on my want list. For your use, the HF pliers are totally fine.

aidandj 08-25-2016 07:17 PM

Cool thanks.


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