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Ben 12-10-2007 01:03 PM

Cheap torsens are rare. I've seen 3 this past year. Cheap 7" opens are common. Get one and an rx7 clutch pack and be happy.

ldp82 12-10-2007 01:04 PM

i would NOT use a 5-6 point on a stock seat for track events!

Ben 12-10-2007 01:06 PM

do you think a standard belt would be better? explain.

ldp82 12-10-2007 01:22 PM

the stock seat is not set up for harnesses. the shoulder belts can slide off and the 5th-6th point (crotch straps) would need to be run over the top of the bottom seat cushion allowing you to submarine.

if the shoulder belts slip you can/will break your sternum and if you submarine in the seat you can/will compress your spine when you crash.

While the 3 points suck they have been designed for the stock seat.

sorry for the quick post i'm at my co-op job and lunch break is ending

jayc72 12-10-2007 01:28 PM

If you cross the shoulder belts behind the seat there is little chance of slippage. I sit on the anti-sub belts and run them behind the seat. I'd have to literally split in two for this to be an issue. Even with out the anti-sub belt I don't think submarining in a miata is that much of an issue, the driving position is too upright.

If you really thing it is that much of an issue, use both. The racing harness to hold you in place the the 3pt to "save" you in the event of a crash.

brgracer 12-10-2007 02:03 PM

Since cost seems like an issue, you could always run a CG-lock with the stock belt for better support/holding with the stock seats while you get the funds together for seats/harnesses.

hustler 12-10-2007 02:11 PM


Originally Posted by ldp82 (Post 184043)
the stock seat is not set up for harnesses. the shoulder belts can slide off and the 5th-6th point (crotch straps) would need to be run over the top of the bottom seat cushion allowing you to submarine.

if the shoulder belts slip you can/will break your sternum and if you submarine in the seat you can/will compress your spine when you crash.

While the 3 points suck they have been designed for the stock seat.

sorry for the quick post i'm at my co-op job and lunch break is ending

stop reading m.net. Like jays said, the stock seat is too upright to sub, and its not any worse than the 3-point. You also won't have to fight to keep yourself in the seat.

slutz4 12-10-2007 09:14 PM

Id go with whatever you can find for a better deal. I found both of my seats local for dirt cheap. Just get whatever you can find for a steal. If both are equal deals Id go torsen tho

ldp82 12-10-2007 10:46 PM

While I assume we both agree that wearing the 3 point with a properly set up 5-6 point is a bad idea, I would like to agree to disagree about running harnesses on a stock seat for anything but auto-x.

juhanis 12-17-2007 01:22 AM

i did neither... i got the frankendiff instead with a 3.90 final drive and clutch lsd in the 94 housing.

thesnowboarder 12-17-2007 01:44 AM

I dont really want a clutch type lsd thoe, i found a deal on a torsen that i will be picking up this thursday with 3.9 gearing so hopefully some seats will be in the budget by jan, which i dought since x-mass presents need to be purchases


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