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Savington 10-23-2007 05:44 PM

How the fuck does Tom@FFS sell anything? (or "M.net retard of the day")
 
http://forum.miata.net/vb/showpost.p...7&postcount=20


Originally Posted by Tom@FFS
It is easy to make 200WHP on CA91. In fact, it isn't too hard to make 220WHP on CA91 on a stock Miata engine. However, it is still my humble opinion that to take a stock Miata engine to 250WHP on CA91 pump gas is an accident waiting for a place to happen regardless of turbo/SC, Full ECU or otherwise. MP asked me if I thought he could safely make 220-250 with a MP62 hotside on CA91 pump gas. I still don't think so. The possibility of failure is exponentionally related to the WHP.

Bill, (formerdatson510man) has done a load of things to his car to get there. Her runs 93 octane on 9:1 pistons. I believe he is barely at 220WHP. It is quite a leap to go from 220 to 250. Even more of a leap to do it on CA91. Even with the base M45 kit Moss recommends 92 octane minimum. And Bill has the best engine management that money can buy. ;)

Of course this is just my humble opinion.

The sheer stupidity baffles me on a regular basis. Keep the IATs under control, make sure it's not running lean, and you can do whatever you want on 91 octane.

magnamx-5 10-23-2007 05:48 PM

Yep, i gues my setup is just an acident waiting to happen :rofl:

Philip 10-23-2007 05:50 PM

:dunno:

see if he wants to buy a banner here :rofl:

Ben 10-23-2007 05:51 PM

I believe his level of expertise is related to non intercooled, high compression 99-00 and 01-05 motors. Taken in that context, IE "low" octane, high intake temp, and high compression, coupled with no timing management... I entirely agree with what he said.

Also his customers seem to follow his lead like lemmings. So if he posts that >220 whp is a bad idea, they will take it to heart... and hopefully stop blowing their shit up. Because for a while, it seemed that there was an FFS equipped engine failure every week.

Ben 10-23-2007 05:55 PM

BTW, I had an interesting PM dialoge with Tom. He seems like an allright guy, when he's not out there whoring his product.

magnamx-5 10-23-2007 06:05 PM

I like Tom to but sometimes i find myself doing a double take on his posts. Either he panders to the Newbs or he realy hasn't researched thingsas far as we have. I dunno witch is worse.

Philip 10-23-2007 06:06 PM


Originally Posted by Ben (Post 166338)
BTW, I had an interesting PM dialoge with Tom. He seems like an allright guy, when he's not out there whoring his product.

all the more reason he should advert here.

Savington 10-23-2007 06:17 PM

He'd certainly fit in nicely with all the FM bashers.

Stealth97 10-23-2007 06:21 PM

Install kit
turn key
melt pistons

I bought a fuel rail from him, only because he was the only one selling them at the time. they way he stole the design from BRP/SOT was just wrong. If only I had a PC-Pro or two instead of a MS I'd be making so much power.

Philip 10-23-2007 06:22 PM


Originally Posted by Savington (Post 166347)
He'd certainly fit in nicely with all the FM bashers.

wah wah wah

Savington 10-23-2007 06:31 PM

Honestly I'm amazed Gary didn't ban him after accusing the forum and FM of playing favorites.

Ben 10-23-2007 06:33 PM

why ban the guy if you're cashing his checks?
$1800/yr will get you some lee way with me :)

patsmx5 10-23-2007 07:56 PM


Originally Posted by Ben (Post 166355)
why ban the guy if you're cashing his checks?
$1800/yr will get you some lee way with me :)

Ding Ding Ding! We have a Winner!!! I would suspect they both got PM's saying play nice and we still want your money.

hustler 10-23-2007 09:00 PM

sig check.

Arkmage 10-23-2007 09:14 PM


Originally Posted by Ben (Post 166355)
why ban the guy if you're cashing his checks?
$1800/yr will get you some lee way with me :)

Hey Philip,

what is your rate for a banner ad around here?

chuckerants 10-24-2007 02:03 AM


Originally Posted by Stealth97 (Post 166352)
Install kit
turn key
melt pistons

I bought a fuel rail from him, only because he was the only one selling them at the time. they way he stole the design from BRP/SOT was just wrong. If only I had a PC-Pro or two instead of a MS I'd be making so much power.

If you're referring to the Coldside, you should get your story straight. Tom designed the Coldside kit, BRP was supposed to (sell the kits) accept payment and send Tom his cut.

The last part never happened and he's still out a shitload of money.

After all the bullshit about BRP fucking people, there are still morons that believe BRP is the shit.

samnavy 10-24-2007 08:29 AM


Originally Posted by chuckerants (Post 166489)
If you're referring to the Coldside, you should get your story straight. Tom designed the Coldside kit, BRP was supposed to (sell the kits) accept payment and send Tom his cut.

The last part never happened and he's still out a shitload of money.

After all the bullshit about BRP fucking people, there are still morons that believe BRP is the shit.

This is the exact story I've heard several times.

Stealth97 10-24-2007 08:47 AM

All I know is what I read when the BS went down. Never cared to dig any deeper.

chuckerants 10-24-2007 09:55 AM


Originally Posted by Stealth97 (Post 166543)
All I know is what I read when the BS went down. Never cared to dig any deeper.

Yeah, it shows.

Mymiataflys 10-24-2007 09:55 AM

I bought one of his fuel rails and it's a nice piece at a fair price with good service and friendly emails. Couldn't find it listed on his sight and had to email him about it's availability. I did paint over the white lettering with black paint.


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