How (and why) to Ramble on your goat sideways
07-27-2010, 06:02 PM
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Turns out that the Dept. of Homeland Security has a 21 page booklet on how to tell the difference between a bolt and a screw:
http://www.cbp.gov/linkhandler/cgov/...ctt/icp013.pdf
Seriously, you just can't make this **** up.
http://www.cbp.gov/linkhandler/cgov/...ctt/icp013.pdf
Seriously, you just can't make this **** up.
"The standard is full of industry jargon, so to make it easier to use, we have combined it here with illustrations and glossary terms..."
Translation: Since many Government personnel lack the education or aptitude to read and understand technical documentation...
And, as usual, it is something silly that is based from a law suit.
"In Rocknel Fastener, Inc. v. United States, Slip Op. 00-112 (Ct. Int’l Trade, decided August 29, 2000), the court sanctioned ANSI/ASME Standard B18.2.1 as “provid[ing] a well-recognized, comprehensive basis for the common and commercial meaning of bolt and screw as understood by the fastener industry in the United States.”
Similar to...
"Nix v. Hedden, 149 U.S. 304 (1893)[1], was a case in which the United States Supreme Court addressed whether a tomato was classified as a fruit or a vegetable and decided it was a vegetable. The Tariff Act of March 3, 1883 required a tax to be paid on imported vegetables, but not fruit. The case was filed as an action by John Nix, John W. Nix, George W. Nix, and Frank W. Nix against Edward L. Hedden, Collector of the Port of New York, to recover back duties paid under protest. Botanically, a tomato is a fruit. The court, however, unanimously ruled in favor of the defendant, that the Tariff Act used the ordinary meaning of the words "fruit" and "vegetable" – where a tomato is classified as a vegetable – not the technical botanical meaning."
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07-27-2010, 06:29 PM
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Ok, I honestly had no idea that the Supreme Court had ruled on the whole Fruit v. Vegetable issue. I mean, I understand that they were ruling on a tax levy, but it's still damn funny.
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07-27-2010, 06:43 PM
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I've seen people working on cars/machinery, that try to loosen a bolt by the head. This often results in spinning it instead of removal.
*I know this only because it was a question posed to me many decades ago by a crusty old mechanic. Wrong answers earned you scorn and ridicule. A correct answer earned you further esoteric questions in the same vein, until you got one wrong. He was grating, abusive and stubborn as a concrete pier. But he was the best damn mechanic I ever saw, and could fix just about anything.
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07-27-2010, 07:09 PM
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Wrong. You use the head of a bolt to hold it while you torque the nut. Using this definition, carriage bolts are, indeed, bolts. Screws are the opposite, you torque via the head.*
I've seen people working on cars/machinery, that try to loosen a bolt by the head. This often results in spinning it instead of removal.
*I know this only because it was a question posed to me many decades ago by a crusty old mechanic. Wrong answers earned you scorn and ridicule. A correct answer earned you further esoteric questions in the same vein, until you got one wrong. He was grating, abusive and stubborn as a concrete pier. But he was the best damn mechanic I ever saw, and could fix just about anything.
I've seen people working on cars/machinery, that try to loosen a bolt by the head. This often results in spinning it instead of removal.
*I know this only because it was a question posed to me many decades ago by a crusty old mechanic. Wrong answers earned you scorn and ridicule. A correct answer earned you further esoteric questions in the same vein, until you got one wrong. He was grating, abusive and stubborn as a concrete pier. But he was the best damn mechanic I ever saw, and could fix just about anything.
Why am I even arguing about this
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07-27-2010, 07:34 PM
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Who's arguing? We're discussing. Ya got something better to do?
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07-27-2010, 09:14 PM
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This just gets better. I called Clutch Masters and they told me that a new friction disc is $285! Don't they realize I can get a whole new clutch set up for the same price if not a few dollars more. They are insane.
Well, they just lost a customer, not to mention the fact that I ran right back to MT.net to tell the masses how shitty Clutch Bastards really is.
Hmmm, I wonder if it is possible to use a different manufacturers disc with it. If not, that piece of **** is going right in the garbage. **** Clutch Bastards.
EDIT: ^^^^ This is a stupid idea, forget I said it!
Well, they just lost a customer, not to mention the fact that I ran right back to MT.net to tell the masses how shitty Clutch Bastards really is.
Hmmm, I wonder if it is possible to use a different manufacturers disc with it. If not, that piece of **** is going right in the garbage. **** Clutch Bastards.
EDIT: ^^^^ This is a stupid idea, forget I said it!
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