How (and why) to Ramble on your goat sideways
09-16-2011, 09:14 AM
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That top is WITHOUT rain rail. Do yourself a favor, and spend the extra to get a new one. If your top is shot, chances are the RR is as well. If not, most likely you will crack or tear it taking it off the old top. Nothing like installing a top to find it still leaks.
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09-16-2011, 09:47 AM
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BUY A NEW RAIN RAIL.
I have done a few top installs. They are not exactly hard, just long and tedious. I prefer NA tops with the zip down window just because it is nice to be able to leave the top up, unzip the back window, and put down the side windows. You get most of the win of having the top down, but also do not have the sun shining directly on you. I do this on long drives on the interstate
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09-16-2011, 10:30 AM
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+1 on rain rail.
I just had to put a rain rail on my car because the last time somebody replaced the top they didn't do it. Buying it pre-installed instead of separately is a win.
I just had to put a rain rail on my car because the last time somebody replaced the top they didn't do it. Buying it pre-installed instead of separately is a win.
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09-16-2011, 10:42 AM
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And regarding the quality of the vinyl, My robbins glass/zipper/vinyl top wore out at the fabric part around the window zipper. The vinyl itself still looks pretty damn good. I'm using Marine Goop and two strips of black fabric to hold the zipper to the top, hopefully that works. F*ck spending money right now.
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09-16-2011, 11:47 AM
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On the topic of glass windows:
I had a Robbins no-zip glass-window vinyl top installed on my '92. Paid a local shop to do it, and they did a nice job. The glass window is quite nice. Visibility is very slightly poorer than with the plastic window, as it's smaller, but it's nice not to have to worry about fading, cracking, etc. And the vinyl itself is still in perfect shape after 5 years, with no maintenance beyond an occasional washing.
But after just 2 or 3 years, the rear window started to separate from the top. Basically, the glass is just glued to the vinyl, and the adhesive started to fail such that the glass and vinyl began to part.
I doubt whether a canvas top would fare any better in this regard. My next top (on the '90) is going to be a cheap no-zip plastic window.
I had a Robbins no-zip glass-window vinyl top installed on my '92. Paid a local shop to do it, and they did a nice job. The glass window is quite nice. Visibility is very slightly poorer than with the plastic window, as it's smaller, but it's nice not to have to worry about fading, cracking, etc. And the vinyl itself is still in perfect shape after 5 years, with no maintenance beyond an occasional washing.
But after just 2 or 3 years, the rear window started to separate from the top. Basically, the glass is just glued to the vinyl, and the adhesive started to fail such that the glass and vinyl began to part.
I doubt whether a canvas top would fare any better in this regard. My next top (on the '90) is going to be a cheap no-zip plastic window.
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09-16-2011, 11:49 AM
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Changing the tops really isn't that hard. Unless you're absolutely dead-set on being able to lower the window, the $200 vinyl plastic window jobs are the best deal. They'll last 4 or 5 years, and then you can replace it again.
Screw dropping $600 on a canvas top with a zip out glass window and have it self-destruct within 2 years.
Screw dropping $600 on a canvas top with a zip out glass window and have it self-destruct within 2 years.
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09-16-2011, 11:55 AM
#9607
changing the tops really isn't that hard. Unless you're absolutely dead-set on being able to lower the window, the $200 vinyl plastic window jobs are the best deal. They'll last 4 or 5 years, and then you can replace it again.
Screw dropping $600 on a canvas top with a zip out glass window and have it self-destruct within 2 years.
Screw dropping $600 on a canvas top with a zip out glass window and have it self-destruct within 2 years.
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09-16-2011, 12:34 PM
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traffic is slightly backed up as I pull out of the post office into a right hand lane. lane is merging left due to a work truck stopping traffic ahead. I put on turn signal to get into left lane like everyone else. Traffic is merging nicely and I finally get space to start working over. As I'm getting up to the cones and I'm about halfway into the left lane, lady in minivan decides her van should occupy that space and completely blocks me off. Into the cones I go, as I slam on my brakes, pull to the right and honk the horn. I watch her slowly (remember traffic) drive by my window making sure not to look at me.
about 50 feet ahead of us is a ******* red right so I pull behind her and get out of my car. I knock on her window to politley let her know shes a cunted ----. she wouldnt make eye contact, like before, and had a really snobby pissed off look to her face. i put my hand onto her window as I was leaning in and then started mouthing off and she turns, points at my finger and snaps "dont touch my car!"
of course, I put both my hands on her window and say "what now bitch, u mad?"
I continued to mouth off for a minute or so and I ended with something to the tune of "I just wanted to let you know that I did indeed run into the cones, so you win, you are a bitch you really showed me a thing or two"
I got back into my car and went back to work. I thought of doing a number of things to her vehicle, but alas, i was smarter than that and just exercised my right to free speech.
Nothing major, just stupid annoying. Shes just lucky I'm not Leatherface or ChuckyZ.
about 50 feet ahead of us is a ******* red right so I pull behind her and get out of my car. I knock on her window to politley let her know shes a cunted ----. she wouldnt make eye contact, like before, and had a really snobby pissed off look to her face. i put my hand onto her window as I was leaning in and then started mouthing off and she turns, points at my finger and snaps "dont touch my car!"
of course, I put both my hands on her window and say "what now bitch, u mad?"
I continued to mouth off for a minute or so and I ended with something to the tune of "I just wanted to let you know that I did indeed run into the cones, so you win, you are a bitch you really showed me a thing or two"
I got back into my car and went back to work. I thought of doing a number of things to her vehicle, but alas, i was smarter than that and just exercised my right to free speech.
Nothing major, just stupid annoying. Shes just lucky I'm not Leatherface or ChuckyZ.
Wow you are aggro cat lover
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09-16-2011, 01:05 PM
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close.
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Although Fungal Growth immobilizes enemy units, it does not stop them from attacking or using abilities.
Snares enemy units in the target area, immobilizing them and causing 36 damage over 4 seconds. Reveals cloaked and burrowed units. Prevents units from burrowing, unburrowing, and blinking.
Although Fungal Growth immobilizes enemy units, it does not stop them from attacking or using abilities.
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09-16-2011, 02:28 PM
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BUY A NEW RAIN RAIL.
I have done a few top installs. They are not exactly hard, just long and tedious. I prefer NA tops with the zip down window just because it is nice to be able to leave the top up, unzip the back window, and put down the side windows. You get most of the win of having the top down, but also do not have the sun shining directly on you. I do this on long drives on the interstate
BUY A NEW RAIN RAIL.
I have done a few top installs. They are not exactly hard, just long and tedious. I prefer NA tops with the zip down window just because it is nice to be able to leave the top up, unzip the back window, and put down the side windows. You get most of the win of having the top down, but also do not have the sun shining directly on you. I do this on long drives on the interstate
I mean, if it's OEM, absolutely, get a new rain rail. But if he has a robbins top like he said, the rain rail may be fine (Or at least mine was, in a Robbins top that was very old and used.) At least, it's that way in my experience: The Robbins rain rails are longer lasting than the top itself.
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09-16-2011, 04:50 PM
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****! I can never get anything done car related at home. Tried to fix my aunts car, a single broken lug on each front side. I thought I would be able to get my air hammer on the broken studs and there would be enough room at the back to not have to remove the hub... WRONG! I would have to drop the calipers, rotors, axles, hubs, just for a ******* lug stud. She still has 4 of 5, I told her to deal with it, I was no longer doing it as a free favor, and she couldn't afford me. I don't have a decent place to work, nor do I have any decent tools here. Everything is ancient junk. I had to fix a ******* blown air line just to use the shitty air tools that didn't work anyway. **** this place, I can't wait to move.
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09-16-2011, 07:30 PM
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At least you didn't lose an injector clip. This is the third time I've had to remove and install them trying to fix a ******* fuel leak at the injector. CHEVY IS A POS. They use the most backasswards way of doing EVERYTHING.
Now I'm sitting here with my hand up my *** while this hunk of **** takes up all my workspace. My poor miata has had to sit behind this thing for a week now. It should have been done yesterday.
Now I still don't have the ******* clip and I'm done, I'm getting food and getting drunk. Tomorrow I will either buy new ones or find the old one.
Now I'm sitting here with my hand up my *** while this hunk of **** takes up all my workspace. My poor miata has had to sit behind this thing for a week now. It should have been done yesterday.
Now I still don't have the ******* clip and I'm done, I'm getting food and getting drunk. Tomorrow I will either buy new ones or find the old one.
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09-16-2011, 07:36 PM
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At least you didn't lose an injector clip. This is the third time I've had to remove and install them trying to fix a ******* fuel leak at the injector. CHEVY IS A POS. They use the most backasswards way of doing EVERYTHING.
Now I'm sitting here with my hand up my *** while this hunk of **** takes up all my workspace. My poor miata has had to sit behind this thing for a week now. It should have been done yesterday.
Now I still don't have the ******* clip and I'm done, I'm getting food and getting drunk. Tomorrow I will either buy new ones or find the old one.
Now I'm sitting here with my hand up my *** while this hunk of **** takes up all my workspace. My poor miata has had to sit behind this thing for a week now. It should have been done yesterday.
Now I still don't have the ******* clip and I'm done, I'm getting food and getting drunk. Tomorrow I will either buy new ones or find the old one.
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09-16-2011, 11:02 PM
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I want to know if you can sell me product A+B with these features.
Him
Yes, product A+ is just what you need, and you will also need product C at another $140 to do something similar, but not as effeciently as product A can do it. You don't need product B
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I don't have anyway to possibly utilize product C. Can you sell me something that can do what I am asking?
Him
Yes, product A+ can do something similar to what you are asking, and product C can almost do what you are asking about. You don't need product B.
Week off to cool down and think of another way to phrase the question.
Me
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Yes, product A+ can do something similar to what you are asking, and product C can almost do what you are asking about. You don't need product B, but we can add it if you want.
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