How (and why) to Ramble on your goat sideways
Excited? hahaha who gets excited about a friggen hybrid?
I mean even the insight isn't something a sane person would buy as a "toy".
It's a lighter, older, uglier, mini-fridge. The thing that makes the prii appealing is that they fit more crap in em than a subaru wagon, WHILE getting 50mpg, WHILE having every gizmo under the sun stuffed into em, AND still chug to 200k with no problems.
I mean even the insight isn't something a sane person would buy as a "toy".
It's a lighter, older, uglier, mini-fridge. The thing that makes the prii appealing is that they fit more crap in em than a subaru wagon, WHILE getting 50mpg, WHILE having every gizmo under the sun stuffed into em, AND still chug to 200k with no problems.
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I can tell you from exp that what he says actually works. Not a theory. I've done it.
I dunno the explicit details/ins-outs but I think this is how it works:
when you pulse you're using lots of battery juice, and not as much gas as you would if you were to slowly ramp up accelaration because then it'd use the engine for a longer period of time. when you glide you coast while the battery regens, it doesnt kill speed much cause toyota is smart and actually put a range in there where it will regenerate without decelarating much if at all.
you're essentially recovering as much energy as possible, then re-using as much of that energy as possible to conserve other energy.'
......or something
I dunno the explicit details/ins-outs but I think this is how it works:
when you pulse you're using lots of battery juice, and not as much gas as you would if you were to slowly ramp up accelaration because then it'd use the engine for a longer period of time. when you glide you coast while the battery regens, it doesnt kill speed much cause toyota is smart and actually put a range in there where it will regenerate without decelarating much if at all.
you're essentially recovering as much energy as possible, then re-using as much of that energy as possible to conserve other energy.'
......or something
But I don't believe you'd see positive results in a normal car.
Oh yeah, heard about that. Pretty sure someone did that on a prius too, and got some absurd 90+mpg
It would spin a lot. I used to steal my bro's Insight when he was out of town and go "chirp second" on it, and it did it really good. Those were the days
It would spin a lot. I used to steal my bro's Insight when he was out of town and go "chirp second" on it, and it did it really good. Those were the days
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Shaikh's new marketing strategy seems...questionable.
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Science says his suspension setup is best! Don't believe him? Too bad! Science!
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The book I'm about 300 pages into writing is extensively referenced, with many engineering links as I've peppered through various threads. It also requests the reader keep an open mind. I'm bringing in things I've learned in other disciplines. I challenge a lot of assumptions and not just in suspension design. I expect about 70% of conventional enthusiasts won't appreciate it, but those who do will really love what they can get from applying the principles. Some, like those who has tested our products against many others, will see it as a validation of what we know to be true. Not because of confirmation bias or Koolaid, but because you can't lie to Mother Nature.
The OEMs generally know how to make a fantastic, fast, smooth sports car or sedan. We're smart if we take note of what they do that works and then apply the Hippocratic oath to our customized suspensions - to do no harm. I'm thinking of the tires and our bodies. Both must be kept happy to have the maximum grip and smoothest ride. Given ideally-tuned damping and all other essential variables held constant, a setup without Flat Ride won't grip as well or ride as well as one that has it. This isn't conjecture, it's science - it's what engineers more experienced than any of us know and why OEMs use it.
Until your (insert vehicle, in our case a Miata) has a better power:weight ratio and utilizes signficantly more aero than a Corvette I see no reason to deviate from a formula that makes excellent sense and keeps the tires in better contact with the road, plus reduces vibrations demonstrated to disturb the driver (thus reducing their performance).
What I'm saying is only new to some people . A lot of engineers & racers in other fields are well aware of these concepts. Putting it all together for our applications seems to be novel, from what I'm not seeing or hearing about other product. An efficient, compact, Flat Compression blow-off feature for a monotube shock appears to be novel.
I think the changes are more likely to come at the level of a new company taking whichever of these principles they want (and others they discover on their own) and applying them to their existing product lines. They will get objectively better results in every area, as we're demonstrating. Someone may actually do a fully quantitative analysis. That might even be me once I have the vehicles to do those tests on.
The OEMs generally know how to make a fantastic, fast, smooth sports car or sedan. We're smart if we take note of what they do that works and then apply the Hippocratic oath to our customized suspensions - to do no harm. I'm thinking of the tires and our bodies. Both must be kept happy to have the maximum grip and smoothest ride. Given ideally-tuned damping and all other essential variables held constant, a setup without Flat Ride won't grip as well or ride as well as one that has it. This isn't conjecture, it's science - it's what engineers more experienced than any of us know and why OEMs use it.
Until your (insert vehicle, in our case a Miata) has a better power:weight ratio and utilizes signficantly more aero than a Corvette I see no reason to deviate from a formula that makes excellent sense and keeps the tires in better contact with the road, plus reduces vibrations demonstrated to disturb the driver (thus reducing their performance).
What I'm saying is only new to some people . A lot of engineers & racers in other fields are well aware of these concepts. Putting it all together for our applications seems to be novel, from what I'm not seeing or hearing about other product. An efficient, compact, Flat Compression blow-off feature for a monotube shock appears to be novel.
I think the changes are more likely to come at the level of a new company taking whichever of these principles they want (and others they discover on their own) and applying them to their existing product lines. They will get objectively better results in every area, as we're demonstrating. Someone may actually do a fully quantitative analysis. That might even be me once I have the vehicles to do those tests on.
Science says his suspension setup is best! Don't believe him? Too bad! Science!
Lol'd hard.
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Even better when it was followed up with this:
MX-5 Miata Forum - View Single Post - Help with FCM Flat Ride (550/425)
MX-5 Miata Forum - View Single Post - Help with FCM Flat Ride (550/425)
Even better when it was followed up with this:
MX-5 Miata Forum - View Single Post - Help with FCM Flat Ride (550/425)
Shaikh's new marketing strategy seems...questionable.
MX-5 Miata Forum - View Single Post - Help with FCM Flat Ride (550/425)
Science says his suspension setup is best! Don't believe him? Too bad! Science!
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Science says his suspension setup is best! Don't believe him? Too bad! Science!
but time for a bro-down between emilio and shaikh
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I had some bad hiccups 30 minutes ago. I picked a hot pepper out of my garden, it about stopped my heart but I no longer have hiccups.
Worked for me, it may work for you.
Worked for me, it may work for you.
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Originally Posted by Tom@FFS
Not me. Tuners did the jobs. They weren't anywhere near me. I have neither the time nor the patience. I prefer to drive them.
I like the guy calling out Andrew for making an inferior product simply because it does not pass emissions
Bonus points for trying to tell us that the 5th injector is for COOLING the intake charge. Sure. Seems legit.