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Old Dec 10, 2015 | 03:35 PM
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And put it on my 1.6 cause I won't spend 1K on a 1.8, lol
Old Dec 10, 2015 | 03:36 PM
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Exactly.

I don't have the time to take on more random projects. I can barely handle my own ****.
Old Dec 10, 2015 | 03:37 PM
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Right now, i can get a car way up on jack stands in just a couple minutes, and it's not all that bad to work under it. But when I get to my 40's I'll be investing in a lift, lol.

If I were doing work for profit though, and had a nice, permanent shop... I'd have bought a lift by now.
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Old Dec 10, 2015 | 03:43 PM
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Originally Posted by turbofan
Right now, i can get a car way up on jack stands in just a couple minutes, and it's not all that bad to work under it. But when I get to my 40's I'll be investing in a lift, lol.
I'm 43.

I bought a Bend-pak, not interested in a no-name lift.

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Old Dec 10, 2015 | 03:51 PM
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I am young and indestructibru still, so as long as it's got locking hooks and the truck isn't bouncing up and down...



Moral of the story, don't try and lift unladen tri-axle dump trucks with your $1800 2 post, lolol
Old Dec 10, 2015 | 06:34 PM
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Originally Posted by deezums

My only deal is I'd want to lift full size trucks and stuff, well, I wouldn't want to but I would. Think it'd hold up to those still, Sean?

As far as I can tell we had the exact lift in the video, and if I recall correctly it was rated for 9k, might have been 10k. We did full sized trucks up to 3/4 ton routinely with out issue. What do those weigh, 5-6k? Dont think we ever exceeded that. To my knowledge the lift is still working where I bolted it down in 05.
Old Dec 10, 2015 | 06:42 PM
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Yeah, 5-6K on a full size sounds right, they say it "should" be rated at 7K in that video which I'd be cool with. I've only seen 9K versions anymore, probably what I'd get.

15,000 lbs is a loooot.
Old Dec 10, 2015 | 06:57 PM
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If you have the space and the concrete for it, get it. The ONLY reason I dont have one is for those 2 reasons. Im not sure what all this talk about age is. I was 17 when My dad opened that place and having a lift is a gift from the kitten gods, no matter your age or condition.
Old Dec 10, 2015 | 09:40 PM
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Originally Posted by deezums
My only deal is I'd want to lift full size trucks and stuff, well, I wouldn't want to but I would.
Once again, scissor-lift.

Beefy enough for a full-size truck:





Compact enough for a Porsche 914:





Disappears completely out of the way when not in use:





I can think of literally no reason at all why anyone would choose a 4 post lift over one of these, unless all you ever do is alignments.
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Extra parking is 1 reason.

Though knowing how much my car leaks I wouldn't park under it.

Those scissor lifts cover a lot of the underside of a Miata.
Old Dec 10, 2015 | 10:12 PM
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Originally Posted by aidandj
Extra parking is 1 reason.

Though knowing how much my car leaks I wouldn't park under it.

Those scissor lifts cover a lot of the underside of a Miata.
Extra parking is huge. My bend-pak includes drip trays if you're worried about parking under something that leaks.

The other cool thing the 4-post does is that you can roll it around on casters.


(OK, I suck at inline youtube videos. Huh, weird, now it works. I don't understand this)

Also, I'd trust a 4-poster a lot more in an earthquake than a scissor lift.

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Originally Posted by aidandj
Those scissor lifts cover a lot of the underside of a Miata.
They cover a whole lot less of it than a 4-post. And the covered parts are entirely devoid of stuff that you normally need to get a wrench onto.

If you can accommodate a 2 post, then no question it's the best choice. But a 4 post isn't the next best thing.
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Originally Posted by deezums
What if my shop were big enough in every way for a two post, are the $1800 china ones cool?

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I could lift four miata at once, lol
They are fine for at home use. When I was looking for a lift 1.5 years ago I was going to go with one. About a third the cost of a US made one and far faster delivery times then I got from the US company I was talking to.
Old Dec 11, 2015 | 09:38 AM
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This discussion is nicely timed for me.
I'm putting concrete in my shop finally, and I want to make accommodations for a two post lift. For the area the lift will be installed in, I'm planning on using a 5,000 psi mix at 5 inches thick. That should be enough right?
Old Dec 11, 2015 | 09:58 AM
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Originally Posted by Monk
This discussion is nicely timed for me.
I'm putting concrete in my shop finally, and I want to make accommodations for a two post lift. For the area the lift will be installed in, I'm planning on using a 5,000 psi mix at 5 inches thick. That should be enough right?
I think most 2 posts wanted 4-6" thick concrete at a minimum. I would go at least 6" to be on the safe side.
Old Dec 11, 2015 | 10:52 AM
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Found a relic at work.







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Old Dec 11, 2015 | 10:58 AM
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Originally Posted by triple88a
Graphics to Drench Your Senses
That's awsome.
Old Dec 11, 2015 | 11:07 AM
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Originally Posted by triple88a
Found a relic at work.
That's funny, I'm cleaning out some equipment that came out of a retired coworker's office. Found this:


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Old Dec 11, 2015 | 11:08 AM
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Not to shift focus away from concrete too much, but it's official: the robot was has begun.

Tokyo's solution to rogue drones? Drones with nets
The only thing that stops a bad guy with a drone, is a good guy with a drone.



Law enforcement agencies the world over are worried about the power of drones, and how nefarious types could use them for evil. Tokyo has decided that there's only one thing to be done about the problem, which is to form an anti-drone squad that'll apprehend rogue fliers in the air. Rather than using a dragnet on the ground, the anti-drone drone will use an actual net* to scoop up suspects and carry them away to safety. That may sound like it's being done for the LOLs, but it's deadly serious -- officers found a drone carrying radioactive material on the roof of the country's prime minister back in April.



If our eyes are to be believed, it looks as if the police are using a DJI Spreading Wings 900 with a large 3 x 2 meter square of net tied to its feet. When a rogue drone is spotted in the air, the police unit will fly overhead, scooping up the smaller craft and dragging it away to safety. It's an elegant solution, and one that'll be tested by a single drone this month, with a full fleet of 10 guarding significant government buildings going into operation next February.

It's not the first country to look into dealing with the potential threats that UAVs pose since they can get about pretty much anywhere. Earlier this year, France launched its own anti-drone drone that chases down and triangulates the identity and location of the pilot, directing law enforcement officers straight to 'em. Man, just when there's a whole host of desirable drones hitting the market, the feds start building ways to ****** 'em away from you.

*Wait, a net in the sky is called a... SkyNet, right? Viene Tormenta!

Tokyo's solution to rogue drones? Drones with nets
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Old Dec 11, 2015 | 01:02 PM
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Originally Posted by Monk
This discussion is nicely timed for me.
I'm putting concrete in my shop finally, and I want to make accommodations for a two post lift. For the area the lift will be installed in, I'm planning on using a 5,000 psi mix at 5 inches thick. That should be enough right?
Concrete is cheap if it's done right the first time. It sucks to have to go back, rip it out and start over.

Use at least 6", and reinforce the hell out of it. Make it so it can support a lift larger than what you are planning. Make the pads larger than you think it needs, too. It's not that much more expensive to over engineer it, and you'll have the peace of mind knowing it is more than strong enough.



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