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Old 11-14-2019, 03:18 PM
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Old 11-14-2019, 03:47 PM
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geez, i didn't mean to derail this thread but here's my take....

How are you liking owning that C172? I'm training on one, and of course I entertain the wallet-draining notion of buying an old plane to build hours on. My budget would tend more towards a 150 or a Piper 140, though; the 172s are going for silly money - at least up here in Canada - these days. All else being equal, I think I'd rather the Cessna over the Piper, but maybe not at twice the money.


this is my third cessna, two c150s and now the c172. i bought the first c150 while taking flying lessons as it was much cheaper to own than rent. plus, with a 150 you can almost cash them like a check. after i got my license i traded up to a better 150 that had a single-axis autopilot, better radios, and i added long-range tanks. i also removed the passenger side yoke and when i put my left foot on the left rudder pedal on the pilot's side and my right foot on the right pedal on the passenger side i had all the room i needed. (i was in this airplane 90+% of the time by myself.) i could fly non-stop from atlanta to chicago, and almost all the way to key west, fl from atlanta. it was a great going-somewhere airplane for me. i was never in a hurry to fly faster since while in the airplane i was "already where i wanted to be". unfortunately, i crashed and when the insurance paid off i couldn't find a good 150 to buy but did find the 172. it took me a year to appreciate how much better the 172 was. my fuel burn was just about one gallon/hour more than in the 150. i can fly the 172 at 48% power and still maintain altitude at about 105mph indicated. if i tried that in the 150, i'd have been in a gentle descent haha.

as to the cherokee/skyhawk debate....
my friend who is an a&p says he's getting out of the cherokee business. wing spar failures and airworthiness directives and such. (https://www.google.com/search?q=pipe...hrome&ie=UTF-8)
i've been comforted several times in really rough weather by looking out the window and seeing that strut attaching my wing to the fuselage. also, the 1st hook of flying for me was the beauty of it. and i don't mean looking down at the top of a wing. btw, the 2nd and and 3rd hooks are: 2)the technical challenge of flying the airplane well (not just driving around the sky) and 3) tinkering with the machine. i mentioned my a&p friend who has been my mentor and low&slow-flying airplanes such as mine are stone simple to work on. you pull this cable and that thing down there moves. easy to understand and i kinda liked not having any metric fasteners.

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Old 11-14-2019, 04:07 PM
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Ohh. Well ****, wing falling off isn't fun, especially while in-flight.

I expect those embry riddle planes to be inspected regularly, but maybe not.
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Old 11-14-2019, 04:13 PM
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Dad had one of these for bunch of my formative years and it is where I learned to fly.
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Old 11-15-2019, 08:55 AM
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My sister is dying of liver cancer, and it looks like the end is pretty close. I don't expect her to last until Thanksgiving.

Cancer sucks.
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Old 11-15-2019, 10:23 AM
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That is serious ****.

I sent you a PM. Some stuff... I don't wanna air publicly.

You're not alone in this.
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Old 11-15-2019, 11:50 AM
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cancer does suck. it's taken the two of my friends who were the smartest people i've ever known.
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Consume huge amounts of raw broccoli sprouts for sulforaphane and go totally keto to fight cancer.
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Old 11-15-2019, 01:27 PM
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That's exactly what my dad is doing. Plus it's more healthy.

Cancer does suck.
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Old 11-19-2019, 04:22 PM
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Originally Posted by rleete
My sister is dying of liver cancer, and it looks like the end is pretty close. I don't expect her to last until Thanksgiving.

Cancer sucks.
Just got the news my sister has passed. Went into hospice care last Friday, and 4 days later she is gone. More sudden than I expected.

Thanks to those people that PM'd me before. While we are (mostly) internet strangers, I find the words of those whom I respect to be more comforting than you may realize.
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Old 11-19-2019, 04:40 PM
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Very sorry to hear about your sister. Seeing someone you love go through that is the worst thing I’ve ever experienced.
I hope you and the family are doing okay.
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Old 11-21-2019, 03:32 PM
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Does this need replacement?
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Old 11-21-2019, 04:38 PM
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Yeah, I'm going to go ahead and say definitely - wheels these days aren't made like they used to be.

You should probably have that tire looked at as well.

Seems like you missed the belts.
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Old 11-21-2019, 09:39 PM
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Looks to me like the wheel just got a little curb rash. The tire, on the other hand, looks like it took a deep enough gash to the sidewall that it should be replaced. That being said, I can't tell for sure for sure just how deep that cut is, so replacement may not be absolutely required. Further, in times of sparse funds, I drove successfully on tires with very similar looking abuse. I definitely wouldn't recommend either high speeds or high G turns on it.
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EDIT: I see that it is a one of those Michelin Green X type LRR tires, which have very soft/flexible sidewalls (i.e. it's VERY easy to do that to them). In that case, I'd say definitely replace it. I'm guessing this was just a low speed curb pinch that caused it. My wife and daughter both drive cars with those tires and both of them have kissed a curb by cutting it too tightly in a parking lot. Sucks!
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Originally Posted by kenzo42
Does this need replacement?
Nah..



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Originally Posted by rleete
Just got the news my sister has passed. Went into hospice care last Friday, and 4 days later she is gone. More sudden than I expected.

Thanks to those people that PM'd me before. While we are (mostly) internet strangers, I find the words of those whom I respect to be more comforting than you may realize.
Man i'm sorry to hear that. my condolences.

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I'll be off to Senegal / Gambia in a couple days, to spend a month there.
We are shooting to shoot 4 episodes this time around so I will be shot by the time we shoot back home.
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Old 11-23-2019, 08:12 AM
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Originally Posted by Godless Commie
I'll be off to Senegal / Gambia in a couple days, to spend a month there.
We are shooting to shoot 4 episodes this time around so I will be shot by the time we shoot back home.
Enjoy your trip and share it with us through pictures and stories when you can.

I was looking at pictures and aerial photographs and noticed something interesting. The Gambia River seems to be the division between more arid lands to the north and somewhat greener areas to the south. But what really caught my eye was the stark contrast between cultivated areas and protected forested areas in greenery. Looking at the aerial images on Google maps it is stunning.

https://goo.gl/maps/FntqeU11MDE7Uvog6
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I just posted our old '08 Corolla on CL. Holy hell's, I've never sold a car that brought out so many penny pinching haglers. It's a nonstop assualt of people trying to lowball me.
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