Church leadership allows atheist members?

Wait I thought the dinosaurs fossils were put into Earth by the blue eyed god in order to test our faith.

My parents go, and I tag along sometimes. Good people, no problem with me.
Yeah pretty much. I'm not a big fan of zombie stories;) so I went with the more sensible thing, lol.

I created it all and I created you, DON'T FUCK WITH ME!
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That'd make you a visitor. Does the preacher ever talk about sin or Jesus? Just curious.

this just pissed me off: A federal judge on Wednesday granted a partial injunction requested by the federal government on the controversial Arizona immigration law, SB 1070.

Anyone here watched Religulous?

yes!!!!!

I was a member, it's complicated. We had a discussion about it once. His name is Rev. Ruben Velasco and he is a very good friend of mine. We talked about me not being religous and he said that's fine because I am very respectful and help out every once in a while(I play bass for some of there shows). I believe in the human ability to be kind, not religion.

I wonder if hustler is in this book that popped up below that one:

http://www.amazon.com/Badass-Relentl...ref=pd_sim_b_2

I can't believe I'm actually about to debate religion on the internet...

(deep breath)

Honestly, I don't find any contradiction between things such as the fossil record or astrometric observations concerning the size/age/rate of expansion of the universe and the fundamental tenets of the Judeo–Christian faiths.

I don't believe that the universe is only 6,000 years old (or whatever you want to call it), and I also don't find this to be in conflict with the idea that it might still have been willingly created by an intelligent being of an origin unknown to me.

Is every single word in the (Bible / Tanakh / Kabbalah) absolutely and unquestionably accurate? Probably not. Does that mean that the general concepts conveyed within are inherently false just because they seem a bit mystical?

I simply assume that the various texts which compose the religious cannon were all written, translated, edited etc., by men, and that some of those folks may have been exaggerating for dramatic effect (parting the sea), writing from a very limited viewpoint (a flood that covered a region a few hundred square miles would have been interpreted to have covered the whole world from the perspective of a person who had never left his home town), or just plain tripping balls (either that, or John of Patmos had suffered a serious head trauma just prior to penning the book of Revelations.)


Basically, for me, it boils down to a willingness to admit that since I wasn't there when the universe came into being, and cannot know with any degree of certainty exactly what happened, nor do I claim to be the smartest sentient being in the whole history of everything everywhere, it would be extremely arrogant to discount any one theory over another on the basis that it involves something apparently incomprehensible.

Perhaps there genuinely was a flying spaghetti monster? I cannot disprove it.

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No sarcasm, it's just nice to actually see that some one has takin' the time to think their "debate" through.

The world could use more Joe P's.

I'm agnostic by the way. I think it's childish to say that we honestly know where we came or didn't come from.

Joe- my problem with religion is that most of their followers will NOT accept the fact that men have put their hand into the foundation of their belief, The Bible etc. Most take the words written there to be a literal and the only explanation or reason of our existence.

I find religions to be extremely convenient to their profit and well-being. And most important manipulative with the sole intention of maintaining control over masses.

I do not believe in "blind faith"

Ding!

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This is funny shit :giggle:

Well said Joe. Agreed on all points. LOL at the tripping balls comment.

I think it's cool that we don't care for religion here. Maybe there's some kind of correlation between Miata drivers and anti-religious sentiments?

Intellect, reason, knowledge.....