How would you use 20 acres of forest?
#21
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I built this like 3 weeks ago from wood that equipment came on from work that they were gonna throw out. It’s about 4’ high 12’ wide.
My almost 4 year old daughter shreds with me...I just turned 37, and actually never rode a 1/4 pipe in my life. All I paid for was the ramp sheeting and a few boxes of drywall screws. Like $110 total investment.
My almost 4 year old daughter shreds with me...I just turned 37, and actually never rode a 1/4 pipe in my life. All I paid for was the ramp sheeting and a few boxes of drywall screws. Like $110 total investment.
#22
I always thought it'd be cool to have some land with a little stream, build a little dam and make a small pond with some fish in it. Even if it was just something as small as spending a few days with a shovel and moving around some rocks. I've got no idea what kind of potential legal or ecological issues someone could accuse you of though.
That and definitely the 50cc dirtbike track.
That and definitely the 50cc dirtbike track.
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I always thought it'd be cool to have some land with a little stream, build a little dam and make a small pond with some fish in it. Even if it was just something as small as spending a few days with a shovel and moving around some rocks. I've got no idea what kind of potential legal or ecological issues someone could accuse you of though.
That and definitely the 50cc dirtbike track.
That and definitely the 50cc dirtbike track.
Putting bridges over the "drains" around here is tough.
#26
I will give you advice I give my clients that have property like yours that may have some environmental significance. This is assuming you want to maintain a quality, historical, and functional plant community.
First, identify and locate any non native plants, particularly trees on the property. If you want to enhance and use the property, remove those plants first.
Remove some native plants that behave like other non native invasives. Most invasives, native or not, move in and push out more desirable and historical plant community residents because of poor land management, fragmentation, or other land use that disturbed the original plant community.
When you develop the property to meet your needs, try to do so in such a way that removes as many non desirable plants as possible, and enhance the more interesting characteristics like exceptional or rare trees, stands of plants with a lot of diversity, water features and elevation changes.
First, identify and locate any non native plants, particularly trees on the property. If you want to enhance and use the property, remove those plants first.
Remove some native plants that behave like other non native invasives. Most invasives, native or not, move in and push out more desirable and historical plant community residents because of poor land management, fragmentation, or other land use that disturbed the original plant community.
When you develop the property to meet your needs, try to do so in such a way that removes as many non desirable plants as possible, and enhance the more interesting characteristics like exceptional or rare trees, stands of plants with a lot of diversity, water features and elevation changes.
#28
That man wins the kewpie doll!
Now I just happen to have a couple of hundred kangaroos surplus to requirements (actually, just plain surplus) ... I'm sure Qantas would come to the party on shipping.
When you and your friends have got them down to 10 or 20, I'm sure my neighbours can chip in for another five hundred or so.
PM me your shipping address, and we'll get this under way!
Now I just happen to have a couple of hundred kangaroos surplus to requirements (actually, just plain surplus) ... I'm sure Qantas would come to the party on shipping.
When you and your friends have got them down to 10 or 20, I'm sure my neighbours can chip in for another five hundred or so.
PM me your shipping address, and we'll get this under way!
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Please pack roos in crate with carbon fiber fastback tops. Willing to pick up at small local airstrip late at night.
Also include invasive Australian pine seedlings for my native plant buddy above. Thanks in advance.
Also include invasive Australian pine seedlings for my native plant buddy above. Thanks in advance.
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I think he is in the 5-10 acres of ownership of property. All of it is wooded except for the parts around his house and most of where he used to keep the horses.
#31
If part of it is seasonally wet, and you'll never really develop it, look into your state's watershed credit trading laws. At least in the PNW we have a thing where you can set up a long term lease of the land's pristine watershed as an offset credit for developed land elsewhere. It's basically a contractual agreement that says you won't develop that land for a set period of time.
#33
Yes, that would be a good way of getting pretty second-hand hardtops, CF or not.
Six, you speak of the dreaded green weed - radiata pine? Place I drive through to get to mine is now covered in seedlings, thanks to the cockatoos. After the bad fires of 2003, the black cockatoos came east and settled - largely because of the food that the pines provide I reckon. Now, between the white and black ones the seedlings are everywhere.
Six, you speak of the dreaded green weed - radiata pine? Place I drive through to get to mine is now covered in seedlings, thanks to the cockatoos. After the bad fires of 2003, the black cockatoos came east and settled - largely because of the food that the pines provide I reckon. Now, between the white and black ones the seedlings are everywhere.
#37
Yes, but more than that.
There's nothing illegal about setting up feeders or licks out-of-season unless a state has specific laws that sound like "feeding of blah blah type of animal is illegal year round". Some states do... some counties or geographic regions of some states do. Some states make it illegal on public land, but not private. Yadda yadda.
In some states, it's illegal to feed animals, but NOT illegal to use bait to hunt.
In states where it's legal to "feed animals", whether it's corn or protein or donuts, you just have to remove that stuff before the season starts. Each state does have different rules regarding "hunting over bait"... and how "bait" is defined. Most states are ---- with a capital A-N-A-L in the definition of bait. However, for deer, theres nothing ever illegal about planting a an acre of something you know they eat.
Even with states where bait is illegal. You can always put up a tree-stand halfway between your bait and known bedding areas as long as the bait is "far enough away" that the warden doesn't (lots of discretion on his part, which can be good or bad for you) want to fine you.
HOWEVER, BACK TO THE THREAD:
There are wildlife non-profits who will come out to your house for free and tell you the best way to set up your property to make it friendly to specific types of animals. What to plant, how to manage ground vegetation, water features, etc... Normally, they'll ask you to sign up with with some sort of management practice where you pledge, as the private landowner, to put in so much effort every year and only kill animals of a certain size or age. Obviously this program works best if your neighbors are in on the deal and all abide by the same rules. QDMA is a no-brainer.
There's nothing illegal about setting up feeders or licks out-of-season unless a state has specific laws that sound like "feeding of blah blah type of animal is illegal year round". Some states do... some counties or geographic regions of some states do. Some states make it illegal on public land, but not private. Yadda yadda.
In some states, it's illegal to feed animals, but NOT illegal to use bait to hunt.
In states where it's legal to "feed animals", whether it's corn or protein or donuts, you just have to remove that stuff before the season starts. Each state does have different rules regarding "hunting over bait"... and how "bait" is defined. Most states are ---- with a capital A-N-A-L in the definition of bait. However, for deer, theres nothing ever illegal about planting a an acre of something you know they eat.
Even with states where bait is illegal. You can always put up a tree-stand halfway between your bait and known bedding areas as long as the bait is "far enough away" that the warden doesn't (lots of discretion on his part, which can be good or bad for you) want to fine you.
HOWEVER, BACK TO THE THREAD:
There are wildlife non-profits who will come out to your house for free and tell you the best way to set up your property to make it friendly to specific types of animals. What to plant, how to manage ground vegetation, water features, etc... Normally, they'll ask you to sign up with with some sort of management practice where you pledge, as the private landowner, to put in so much effort every year and only kill animals of a certain size or age. Obviously this program works best if your neighbors are in on the deal and all abide by the same rules. QDMA is a no-brainer.
#38
Some berry bushes do really well in area's like yours like currants and elderberries. I would plant some of those and some decent trees, but avoid and cut down "weed" trees like ash, silver Maple etc. It would really add some value and quality to your property. Also some thick, thorny parts are great for wildlife. And hunting is good since deer really can decimate young trees. I have a similar set up, and buy the daffodil sacks from Home Depot in the fall and randomly place them in the woods. It looks pretty neat in the spring.
#39
I dunno what your states laws are regarding being able to grow medical/recreational marijuana but if i had 20 acres of land I'd definitely make it for farming that. Being in the woods with lack of road access is good because the probability of thieves stealing your crops drops quite a bit, but the downside to that is animals eating your plants.
Could be extremely profitable if done right.
Could be extremely profitable if done right.
#40
I dunno what your states laws are regarding being able to grow medical/recreational marijuana but if i had 20 acres of land I'd definitely make it for farming that. Being in the woods with lack of road access is good because the probability of thieves stealing your crops drops quite a bit, but the downside to that is animals eating your plants.
Could be extremely profitable if done right.
Could be extremely profitable if done right.