Originally Posted by Tw34k (Post 555547)

Im shocked he didnt call it meth injection like all the cool retards

Originally Posted by JayL (Post 555572)

What fun is this going to be if Hyper isn't playing around with something flammable?

Originally Posted by JayL (Post 555555)

What's wrong with calling it that?

Originally Posted by Full_Tilt_Boogie (Post 555576)

Also, since everybody calls it "meth injection", people are starting to beleive that that is what it is, just pure meth injection.

Originally Posted by Full_Tilt_Boogie (Post 555576)

Because its the water thats acting as an anti-detonated, the methanol/ethanol is just increasing the volatility.

Its like calling a turbo a "exhaust back pressure generator"
lol

Also, since everybody calls it "meth injection", people are starting to beleive that that is what it is, just pure meth injection.
I cnat tell you how many times Ive talked about possibly doing a water injection setup only to be met with the reply of "Why would you inject water?" or "Dont you mean meth injection?" :facepalm:

Maybe Im just obsessive about semantics...

Originally Posted by j_man (Post 555527)

:laugh: Should we expect the "wholy" grail of water injection now? :laugh::laugh::laugh:

Originally Posted by Turbo_4 (Post 555581)

Yeah, what if you are injecting solely meth.

Originally Posted by Full_Tilt_Boogie (Post 555587)

Originally Posted by levnubhin (Post 555616)

I sent Hyper a text message asking him if that thread was for real, he hasn't replied back......

Originally Posted by Full_Tilt_Boogie (Post 555576)

Maybe Im just obsessive about semantics...

Originally Posted by levnubhin (Post 555634)

What's really bugging me is that I'm 98% sure that he had a water injection kit on his old silver NA.

Originally Posted by levnubhin (Post 555634)

What's really bugging me is that I'm 98% sure that he had a water injection kit on his old silver NA.

Originally Posted by Savington (Post 555645)

I'd like to know, I'm pretty sick of his trolling over there.

Originally Posted by Hyper

I just finished riding on my friends 99 turbocharged miata. Wow I am Hyperrrrrrrrrrrrrrr again. He is boosting 13 pounds and injecting alcohol on a water intercooler set up. I was very impressed how fast his car reaches 120-130 mph and he wasn't even flooring it.
The supercharger set up he used to have will be rusting for years to come.

Originally Posted by Hyper

A lot of people have e-mailed me asking for the motor/turbo set up specs.
1.8 Protege Motor Turbo ? Non GTR version (All Japanese Engines, Miami, FL)
BeGI T3 exhaust manifold with external wastegate
Custom BeGI custom Intercooler with (2) 7.5 inches Spal fans
BeGI Intake Manifold
TiAL 38mm Wastegate venting to atmosphere
HKS SSQBOV
Ebay insulation gasket from Precision Motorsports
Miata Link computer
T3/T04 Turbo .48 exhaust side
Greddy Manual Boost Controller
FMII BeGI/Custom Intercooler pipes
Upgraded Intercooler clamps from Turbonetics.
Unorthodox Racing Cam gears (intake cam is slighty retarded)
Flyin Miata Happy Meal Combo
Clutch Type LSD
6speed Tranny (just installed as of 02/02/2007)
3 inch downpipe from Racing Mazda (I bought it from another miata owner.)
3 inch exhaust with Magnaflow mufler
Flying Miata dual feed fuel rail with custom stainless steel lines
550cc RX-7 High Impedance injectors (plug and play to factory harness)
Magnecor 8.5 mm cables.
All water lines have been removed and upgraded to stainless steel lines.
All oil lines have been removed and upgraded to stainless steel lines.
Turbo return line has been upgraded to stainless steel line.
Moss tranny brace to prevent missing gears.
1.8 engine parts (oil pan, 2001 windage tray, motor mounts)
1.6 alternator, water pump pulley, and crank pulley.

What is left to do:

1. Find a set of good drag radial tires.

2. Buy a new carpet

3. Paint the car

4. Alcohol injection

5. Upgrade the oil cooling system.

6. Upgrade the suspension.

and.......Maybe get rid of the A/C

Originally Posted by Savington (Post 555639)

Or maybe you don't understand what methanol/ethanol does. It's LESS volatile (HIGHER octane rating). It raises the detonation threshold not by reducing the temperature of the charge, but by raising octane (and adding a bit of oxygen to the mixture as well).

Originally Posted by levnubhin (Post 555634)

What's really bugging me is that I'm 98% sure that he had a water injection kit on his old silver NA.

Originally Posted by Savington (Post 555645)

I'd like to know, I'm pretty sick of his trolling over there.

Originally Posted by Jeff_Ciesielski (Post 555658)

From 2006:


From 2007:


I'm sure there are more, but I'm busy

Originally Posted by Full_Tilt_Boogie (Post 555659)

And apparently you dont know what "Volatile" is.
Volatility is how well a liquid vaporizes.
Ethanol/Methanol have higher volatility, so it vaporizes better, thus reducing the temperature of the charged air.

Although Methanol/Ethanol have a higher octane rating, they are actually more prone to preignition, this isnt a problem when running on pure alcohol like they do with drag cars and whatnot, but it is a problem when running on gasoline because the preignition can stimulate detonation. This is why youre not supposed to run pure "meth" injection, because if you inject enough the tendency to pre-ignite will overwhelm the lower IATs.

This is well documented in "The High speed internal combustion engine" written by Harry R. Ricardo, who was pretty much the founder of water injection as we know it today.

Originally Posted by levnubhin (Post 555616)

I sent Hyper a text message asking him if that thread was for real, he hasn't replied back......

Originally Posted by thagr81 us (Post 555666)

Being a chemist I can vouche for this assessment of volatilization. The water is mainly used in conjunction with the alcohols as it has a relatively massive specific heat capacity to other solvents.

Heat Capacities:
Water (liquid) = 4.1813 J/(g*K)
Water (gas) = 2.080 J/(g*K)
MeOH (liquid) = 2.48 J/(g*K)
EtOH (liquid) = 2.44 J/(g*K)

Originally Posted by Full_Tilt_Boogie (Post 555588)

Hyper just posted in my Build/Intro thread on club roadster

He says that my inline fuel pump (mounted behind passenger headlight) would explode like a grenade if I got in an accident...

rofl

Originally Posted by levnubhin (Post 555664)

Well there you have it, he's a douche bag.

Originally Posted by Stein (Post 555680)

Why would you have Hyper's phone number? I think that you should post it up here so we all can call or text him.

Originally Posted by stein (Post 555680)

why would you have hyper's phone number? I think that you should post it up here so we all can call or text him.

Originally Posted by buffon01 (Post 555726)

305 202 2767

Originally Posted by thagr81 us (Post 555730)

That could be dangerous...

Originally Posted by buffon01 (Post 555738)

why?? is not like you cant find it in the white pages, or with a little bit of research :dunno: w.e he kinda fuck me over so FUCK him!! :fawk:

Originally Posted by leatherface24 (Post 555751)

omg hes gonna have a cow lmao

Originally Posted by turotufas (Post 555754)

Man a female picked up! :giggle: Hyper sounds like a girly man.

Originally Posted by Joe Perez (Post 555756)

Just for reference, his name is Eli Peraza, his home address is 143 NW 58th Court, Miami FL, 33126, his work address (which I think may just be a mail drop) is 1 N.E. 1st Street Suite B16, Miami FL, 33132, and the two numbers I have for him are (305) 643-9447 and (305) 960-2249. He graduated from South Miami High School in 1993 (which would make him about 35 today). He is somehow related to Thier Alberto Peraza, however I'm not certain of the relationship. (Could just be an alias.)

Originally Posted by turotufas (Post 555754)

Man a female picked up!

Originally Posted by shuiend (Post 555762)

Sounds like Joe and Hyper had a bad breakup. Is that why you left Florida for Cali?