i am considering joining the armed forces
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i am considering joining the armed forces
i just dont know what branch i would want to go into....i hear alot of people saying that it really sucks no mater what branch you enlist in. so what are some opinions of people how were in my shoes, "tossing the idea around"
what do i need to do, who do i need to talk to, what is in-store for me?
help me out guys, i want to better my life and get a good career and stick with it.
what do i need to do, who do i need to talk to, what is in-store for me?
help me out guys, i want to better my life and get a good career and stick with it.
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I tried to AF lately and they turned me down because I didn't have the college education they wanted. Also looked into the Navy but decided not to. It seems that today with so many people unemployed, even joining the armed forces is a bit tougher because of the flood of over qualified people. I don't know anything about you, but I hope you have something impressive to show for yourself. Not that you can't get in, but it's a nice perk if you don't want to start in the basement level on your journey.
A friends brother joined the Navy recently as so far after about 9 months he is liking it, and has no real regrets. He went into one of the toughest fields though, and started off at like 3rd rank with a decent bonus.
A friends brother joined the Navy recently as so far after about 9 months he is liking it, and has no real regrets. He went into one of the toughest fields though, and started off at like 3rd rank with a decent bonus.
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^^ I'm ex Air Force & am reenlisting in the Marine Corps after fall semester. But I need to know a little more about you to know what lifestyle you'd like.
Army: Biggest branch, most jobs (lots of mechanic/vehicle stuff, guessing that interests you. Lots of combat jobs too) You can get promoted quickly, at least actives. Army bases are usually average as far as living quarters, crap to do, dining facilities etc. The Army has over 1.1 million AD soldiers, so you should always be within close range of friends to do ****. Most soldiers I know say they like there way of life. Boot camp is 8 weeks then your AIT (your job specialty training) they have the most gaurd & reserve jobs, & you only need a 30 ASVAB to get in lol.
Navy: I'd ask SamNavy but it seems like the Navy is pretty fun. Minimum ASVAB = 31, 50 w/a GED. Boot camps 8 weeks, some dude on here just did it. I think the smaller ship your on, the more often you port to get drunk & bang broads. Naval facilities are generally nice, most sailors are decently smart. Oh & after you get your job training but think "this **** is gay, I want some action" you can try a Challenge Program. SEALS, EOD (bomb squad), SAR/diver, some badass PT boat thing... You aren't stuck in your MOS/contract if you qual in something else.
Air Force: Do you like computers, insanely expensive killing machines & not really being in harms way? The Air Force wants YOU! =P 36 minimum ASVAB, no GEDs. Boot camps 8 easy weeks, though Lackland (San Antonio) gets hot as hell in the summer. Education is key to promotions... I'm a slacker so no degree. But an Associates = E3 after boot camp. There's the Community College Of The Air Force & CLEP tests, 100% free up to your Bachelors. Engineering degrees get you into a bunch of jobs, but you can't train to be a fighter pilot after 27. If you're kinda a tech geek but want to still kick ***, you'll love the USAF.
Marine Corps: Do you want to **** some **** up? Good. That's what Marines do. Boot camp is 13 weeks, 32 minimum ASVAB. Everyone quals as a Rifleman (M16A2) to interchange in any position on a fireteam. You can earn belts practicing "Semper Fu" in MCMAP (Real MMA). The Marines don't have a Service Academy so if you score over a 74 on the ASVAB & kick *** in boot camp you can be selected for OCS or get your Bachelors & enter TBS to become a lieutenant (6 & 1/2 months.) The USMC is the smallest of the above branches (203K) and the percent wounded or killed is highest. But if you want action, you'll likely see at least one combat deployment if you enlist for 4 years... Get some!
Army: Biggest branch, most jobs (lots of mechanic/vehicle stuff, guessing that interests you. Lots of combat jobs too) You can get promoted quickly, at least actives. Army bases are usually average as far as living quarters, crap to do, dining facilities etc. The Army has over 1.1 million AD soldiers, so you should always be within close range of friends to do ****. Most soldiers I know say they like there way of life. Boot camp is 8 weeks then your AIT (your job specialty training) they have the most gaurd & reserve jobs, & you only need a 30 ASVAB to get in lol.
Navy: I'd ask SamNavy but it seems like the Navy is pretty fun. Minimum ASVAB = 31, 50 w/a GED. Boot camps 8 weeks, some dude on here just did it. I think the smaller ship your on, the more often you port to get drunk & bang broads. Naval facilities are generally nice, most sailors are decently smart. Oh & after you get your job training but think "this **** is gay, I want some action" you can try a Challenge Program. SEALS, EOD (bomb squad), SAR/diver, some badass PT boat thing... You aren't stuck in your MOS/contract if you qual in something else.
Air Force: Do you like computers, insanely expensive killing machines & not really being in harms way? The Air Force wants YOU! =P 36 minimum ASVAB, no GEDs. Boot camps 8 easy weeks, though Lackland (San Antonio) gets hot as hell in the summer. Education is key to promotions... I'm a slacker so no degree. But an Associates = E3 after boot camp. There's the Community College Of The Air Force & CLEP tests, 100% free up to your Bachelors. Engineering degrees get you into a bunch of jobs, but you can't train to be a fighter pilot after 27. If you're kinda a tech geek but want to still kick ***, you'll love the USAF.
Marine Corps: Do you want to **** some **** up? Good. That's what Marines do. Boot camp is 13 weeks, 32 minimum ASVAB. Everyone quals as a Rifleman (M16A2) to interchange in any position on a fireteam. You can earn belts practicing "Semper Fu" in MCMAP (Real MMA). The Marines don't have a Service Academy so if you score over a 74 on the ASVAB & kick *** in boot camp you can be selected for OCS or get your Bachelors & enter TBS to become a lieutenant (6 & 1/2 months.) The USMC is the smallest of the above branches (203K) and the percent wounded or killed is highest. But if you want action, you'll likely see at least one combat deployment if you enlist for 4 years... Get some!
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Army: Biggest branch, most jobs (lots of mechanic/vehicle stuff, guessing that interests you. Lots of combat jobs too) You can get promoted quickly, at least actives. Army bases are usually average as far as living quarters, crap to do, dining facilities etc. The Army has over 1.1 million AD soldiers, so you should always be within close range of friends to do ****. Most soldiers I know say they like there way of life. Boot camp is 8 weeks then your AIT (your job specialty training) they have the most gaurd & reserve jobs, & you only need a 30 ASVAB to get in lol.
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^^ My apologies KPLAFIN. That's great advice though, if your close to a degree then consider signing up as a commissioned officer. No point going enlisted if you're like 15 credits from a bachelors. (E1's make $1339 a month, O1's make $2745)
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There are perks and drawbacks to each service. If we lump the AF/Navy and Army/Marines together lifestyle wise, it's clear that the AF/Navy is an easier lifestyle, but they're harder to get into and promote slower. The Army/MC is easier to join and promotes more quickly, but you're more likely to find yourself in a situation you'd rather not be in. If you join the Army/MC now, I can almost guarantee you'll be in OEF/OIF within a year of getting out of AIT/whateverthemarinescallit. I'm going to Afghanistan soon myself.
It's something I don't think you'll regret. You'll make friends, memories, and have stories to tell your grandkids. If you stay in and retire, you'll have your medical benefits for you and your family for life, in addition to your retirement pay.
It's something I don't think you'll regret. You'll make friends, memories, and have stories to tell your grandkids. If you stay in and retire, you'll have your medical benefits for you and your family for life, in addition to your retirement pay.
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Haha, I don't necessarily hate officers, just that you make more than myself when I do all the work . I'll be getting out at the end of my first 4.5 years and using my GI Bill to go to VT and come back in as an LT.
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My younger brother went Army over two years ago (maybe it was three) and has been promoted a couple of times. He does radio communications and just now trained for satellite communications, went to jump school and qualified Airborne, did a tour in Korea (which he thought was a great time), and because of his previous college credits, his high scores and good work performance he is looking at either going to OCS to be an officer or Warrant Officer school.
There are lots of jobs in every service that you might not know exist. The recruiters will always lie about what jobs you qualify for and what jobs are available. It is their job to hire cooks for the mess hall, infantrymen, and all of the other menial **** nobody wants to do. They will lie to you and ruin your life because they need to hire 8 cooks (or other job) this month. They tried to tell my brother he only qualified to be a cook even though he maxxed out parts of the asvab and had lots of college. They will sometimes show you an awesome video of people doing cool **** with exciting music and a professional voicover to get you jazzed up to sign up for a bullshit job. A neighbor signed up to be a Scout because the video showed dunebuggies and dirtbikes flying over jumps in the desert. He said "We didn't get to do none of that ****." His time in the army involved zero useful training for the outside world and hours and hours of boredom. You want a marketable skill that you can make use of in the outside world in most cases. Jobs with lots of training are good. They make you more valuable.
The best people to talk to are ones who are already in, so you are doing the right thing asking on this forum. Good luck.
There are lots of jobs in every service that you might not know exist. The recruiters will always lie about what jobs you qualify for and what jobs are available. It is their job to hire cooks for the mess hall, infantrymen, and all of the other menial **** nobody wants to do. They will lie to you and ruin your life because they need to hire 8 cooks (or other job) this month. They tried to tell my brother he only qualified to be a cook even though he maxxed out parts of the asvab and had lots of college. They will sometimes show you an awesome video of people doing cool **** with exciting music and a professional voicover to get you jazzed up to sign up for a bullshit job. A neighbor signed up to be a Scout because the video showed dunebuggies and dirtbikes flying over jumps in the desert. He said "We didn't get to do none of that ****." His time in the army involved zero useful training for the outside world and hours and hours of boredom. You want a marketable skill that you can make use of in the outside world in most cases. Jobs with lots of training are good. They make you more valuable.
The best people to talk to are ones who are already in, so you are doing the right thing asking on this forum. Good luck.
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My younger brother went Army over two years ago (maybe it was three) and has been promoted a couple of times. He does radio communications and just now trained for satellite communications, went to jump school and qualified Airborne, did a tour in Korea (which he thought was a great time), and because of his previous college credits, his high scores and good work performance he is looking at either going to OCS to be an officer or Warrant Officer school.
There are lots of jobs in every service that you might not know exist. The recruiters will always lie about what jobs you qualify for and what jobs are available. It is their job to hire cooks for the mess hall, infantrymen, and all of the other menial **** nobody wants to do. They will lie to you and ruin your life because they need to hire 8 cooks (or other job) this month. They tried to tell my brother he only qualified to be a cook even though he maxxed out parts of the asvab and had lots of college. They will sometimes show you an awesome video of people doing cool **** with exciting music and a professional voicover to get you jazzed up to sign up for a bullshit job. A neighbor signed up to be a Scout because the video showed dunebuggies and dirtbikes flying over jumps in the desert. He said "We didn't get to do none of that ****." His time in the army involved zero useful training for the outside world and hours and hours of boredom. You want a marketable skill that you can make use of in the outside world in most cases. Jobs with lots of training are good. They make you more valuable.
The best people to talk to are ones who are already in, so you are doing the right thing asking on this forum. Good luck.
There are lots of jobs in every service that you might not know exist. The recruiters will always lie about what jobs you qualify for and what jobs are available. It is their job to hire cooks for the mess hall, infantrymen, and all of the other menial **** nobody wants to do. They will lie to you and ruin your life because they need to hire 8 cooks (or other job) this month. They tried to tell my brother he only qualified to be a cook even though he maxxed out parts of the asvab and had lots of college. They will sometimes show you an awesome video of people doing cool **** with exciting music and a professional voicover to get you jazzed up to sign up for a bullshit job. A neighbor signed up to be a Scout because the video showed dunebuggies and dirtbikes flying over jumps in the desert. He said "We didn't get to do none of that ****." His time in the army involved zero useful training for the outside world and hours and hours of boredom. You want a marketable skill that you can make use of in the outside world in most cases. Jobs with lots of training are good. They make you more valuable.
The best people to talk to are ones who are already in, so you are doing the right thing asking on this forum. Good luck.
Regardless of what you do good luck, don't let Basic scare you out of joining or anything, **** is a cake walk as long as you have a strong mind.
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If you score high enough on the ASVAB, consider an Intel job. In the Army those are 35 series. I was a 35F first and a 35P now, that's the way to go IMHO. You might also request to take the DLAB.
https://www.miataturbo.net/showthrea...highlight=dlab
https://www.miataturbo.net/showthrea...highlight=dlab
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If you score high enough on the ASVAB, consider an Intel job. In the Army those are 35 series. I was a 35F first and a 35P now, that's the way to go IMHO. You might also request to take the DLAB.
https://www.miataturbo.net/showthrea...highlight=dlab
https://www.miataturbo.net/showthrea...highlight=dlab
In short, get training. If your job has a short AIT, you probably aren't making good use of your time in the military or forging a worthwhile career path.
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thanks for all the information guys!
to give yall some information about me cause some of yall asked: im 21, im not unemployed and can find a good job without going into the military. im skilled in welding and mechanics. i graduated high school and have taken a few college classes in welding while i was still in high school. i want a better education. im not married but have a girlfriend and might as well be
to give yall some information about me cause some of yall asked: im 21, im not unemployed and can find a good job without going into the military. im skilled in welding and mechanics. i graduated high school and have taken a few college classes in welding while i was still in high school. i want a better education. im not married but have a girlfriend and might as well be