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09-09-2008, 04:41 PM
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Anything with four wheels is an automobile in my mind....regardless of amenities or lack there of.
Three wheels still a tricycle - or green machine.
Two wheels still a bike.
Any combination of looks to follow are what makes us individuals in matter of either liking or disliking.
Vehicles should never be defined by their powerplants alone.
As far as fairness goes.....If I could, I would.
Three wheels still a tricycle - or green machine.
Two wheels still a bike.
Any combination of looks to follow are what makes us individuals in matter of either liking or disliking.
Vehicles should never be defined by their powerplants alone.
As far as fairness goes.....If I could, I would.
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09-09-2008, 04:54 PM
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well, i'm unimpressed. Never been a big fan of the Atom. If I had the money for a car like that, I'd go buy a Radical SR8. Same or similar engine (Powertec V8) with a much better chassis and more hardcore than the atom. The Atom frame looks like it was designed by some art major, not an engineer. Its a great poser car to keep up with the Joneses though.
SR8 demolishing road-legal production car lap record in 6:55:00 at the 'Ring:
BTW, 1000 hp/tonne is been done before. Anyone heard of the Caparo T1?
Or, for something even madder, even more DIY, the Dax Rush powered by a 430 hp cosworth, and AWD so you don't kill yourself.
http://www.evo.co.uk/carreviews/evoc.../dax_rush.html
SR8 demolishing road-legal production car lap record in 6:55:00 at the 'Ring:
BTW, 1000 hp/tonne is been done before. Anyone heard of the Caparo T1?
Or, for something even madder, even more DIY, the Dax Rush powered by a 430 hp cosworth, and AWD so you don't kill yourself.
http://www.evo.co.uk/carreviews/evoc.../dax_rush.html
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09-09-2008, 04:59 PM
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Remember when they reviewed and drove the Caparo T1? It did a 1:10.6 (beating the Apollo by over six seconds) but they disqualified it for the ride height.
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09-09-2008, 05:05 PM
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It is not at all arbitrary. Let's have a look:
Hmmm. Ascari A10, Koeniggegszezgggx CCX (with spoiler), Pagoni Zonda F, Maserati MC12, Ariel Atom, Lambo LP640, Porsche Carerra GT, Ascari KZ1, McMerc SLR, Ferarri 599 GTB, Ford GT, Porsche GT3 RS, Ferarri 360CS, 'Vette Z06...
Nope, no Apollo.
Hmmm. Ascari A10, Koeniggegszezgggx CCX (with spoiler), Pagoni Zonda F, Maserati MC12, Ariel Atom, Lambo LP640, Porsche Carerra GT, Ascari KZ1, McMerc SLR, Ferarri 599 GTB, Ford GT, Porsche GT3 RS, Ferarri 360CS, 'Vette Z06...
Nope, no Apollo.
http://www.autoblog.com/2008/08/09/v...rs-test-track/
And my mistake, it was Autoblog that had the images, not Jalopnik.
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09-09-2008, 05:13 PM
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Post edited. (bows gracefully)
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09-09-2008, 05:19 PM
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Re: edit- That's the sort of thing I'm talking about. The T1, DBR9, etc, are DQ'd for ride height, but the Apollo can't make it over a standard speed bump over here and is allowed? Or does the adjustable suspension have something to do with it?
Edit: And yes, Putin did indeed slip on his tea. A horrible accident.
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09-09-2008, 05:29 PM
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Edit: And yes, Putin did indeed slip on his tea. A horrible accident.
EDIT: It was the Ascari A10, in 10x09: "Now because this has a hydraulic lifting nose, which we can see here, it is able to get over speed bumps and that means it is a road car and that means it can go on our board!" (Jezza)
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09-09-2008, 05:36 PM
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That's reasonable enough.
After reading the Autoblog article again, apparently the Apollo got stuck because it had a passenger, so perhaps they just put the lightest person they could find (the Hamster?) on board in order to do the speed bump test.
After reading the Autoblog article again, apparently the Apollo got stuck because it had a passenger, so perhaps they just put the lightest person they could find (the Hamster?) on board in order to do the speed bump test.
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09-09-2008, 07:01 PM
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But, they're loud & cramped. You constantly get a shower of dust and crap thrown up by any other cars around. You litterally have to rinse the dust out of your mouth after a drive. There are no basics like heat or even decent ventilation (the footwells get really hot), and if it's raining you get soaked. They suck to get in or out of, and if you have a passenger, you don't have room for much else, unless you want to strap it on like the Beverly Hillbillys.
They have to be garaged, or all that suspension hanging out for all to see gets rusty, not to mention the seats getting wet. As a toy, they're great. but as a practical vehicle, not so much.
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09-09-2008, 07:06 PM
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Yeah, old picture, and I haven't watched 11x06 yet. (It's downloaded and sitting there...)
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09-09-2008, 07:22 PM
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Well, I've only ever driven a Locost (this one was V-6 powered), but I don't really like them, either. As a toy they are silly fun and scary fast. They handle better than even a well sorted Miata with a good suspension. They can out accelerate almost anything.
As a toy, they're great. but as a practical vehicle, not so much.
As a toy, they're great. but as a practical vehicle, not so much.
You seem to answer your own statements. Cars like these are all toys. The top exotics are toys too. No one drives an Enzo as a daily driver. It's all about fun and fast, on the road if you are a little nuts, and particularly for track days.
As this is a Miata turbo website, I would think most here would love to have a chance to own or drive one of these. They are like our cars taken to an EXTREME! Daily driver? no. Kick in the butt outlandish fun? You bet!
Makes me want to build a lo-cost.
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09-09-2008, 07:37 PM
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