Have fun with that. It will need constant updates, and not to add features. The 510 has been out for ~18 months now and Garmin is still doing major firmware update to fix massive bugs (the kind of bugs that will randomly wipe the device and all of your ride/profile data with it). Buying a Garmin that can't be updated is a bad, bad idea, even at a $100 discount. I'm honestly not a big fan of mine, despite the featureset. If there were an alternative, I'd already own it.

Incredibly dumb idea. Don't do it.

This many.

Thanks for that, Andrew. I'd been considering getting one, I'll just stick with my phone.

Having to fiddle with electronics got pretty old with me (though I never had anything as complex as a Garmin, or even a PWR meter). Batteries needed all the time. Every device with different, non-intuitive programming. DST adjustment 2X per year. Now I have only a basic cyclocomputer with (2) wheel sizes that I move between bikes.

I admit that I ask those with fancy stuff, "what is this grade," and, "How much climbing did we do?" But in reality, knowing that does not get me up the climb any faster.

I just found that riding was reality, not the data sets.

As I said before, if I were training for a specific goal / event, I would at least get a HRM.

Oh, and when my riding partner's Garmin loses the satelite connection and shows "0" MPH, and no distance riden, my Cateye Mity 8 is still telling me what I want to know.

I'm getting serious about a gravel bike. Options are

CAADx, son:
Epic
sex panther
CAAD, son
cheap
105 pov for $1700

Warbird:
Poverty
Ugly
Steel
expensive
105 pov for $2300

Rock Lobster:
Epic
Sex panther
Mint green
Custom
$1400 for a frame and fork

I like how your poverty option is the most expensive.

Mostly unrelated, I really like this Ti framed carbon wheel mukluk, all 31lbs of it.

https://www.miataturbo.net/attachmen...ine=1403713902

Order something from Doug Curtiss.

.Curtlo Cycles - Handmade bicycles. Custom Mountain Bike, Road, Cyclocross, Tandem bikes

It's kind of weird how it works, but I don't make the rules.

Unless you're hopelessly addicted to tracking HRM/power data over time like I am now, I think a Cateye V3 Wireless with HRM + phone GPS is the way to go. At some point the 510 will be good like the 500 is, but only time will tell. I pity the fools who are early-adopting Edge 1000s right now.

I dunno, I kinda like riding dataless right now. Just Strava on the phone and that's it. I can see my stats when I'm done riding. I ditched the helmet mirror and wired computer when I switched from commuting on the MTB to the roadie and I like it a lot. Keeps me from distracting mys..

Sorry saw something shiny.

https://www.miataturbo.net/attachmen...ine=1403732504

That's the more preaux version of my frame (TWO carbon toobss!!) polished and re-stickered.

I approve of that polished frame.

Ok so it's pretty and all, but why is it such a big deal that there's a CAAD track bike? It's a one-trick pony - no brakes, no gears. So pretty much unrideable in the real world. Am I missing something?

I'm pretty sure I race the track in the real world.

This thread stopped being about peasant-bikes quite a while ago.


Also, because you never know:

https://www.miataturbo.net/attachmen...1&d=1403805341

Velodrome, hole in the front for a brake, gear restriction training. You're a "trick".

I'm still pining over this CAADx.

You know what I meant.

I'm now strongly considering buying a CAADx (lightly considering a Trek Crocket) and going to New Mexico for a few days and pedaling in the southern NM forest area. I ahve 34 days of "use or lose leave" and this sounds like a damn good idea.

Any thoughts on a CX vs a gravel bike? I hear the gravel style bikes are way more cush and more relaxing to ride with a lower BB. CAADx is sexy, Trek is poverty and ugly, like a Hyundai.

Come pedal Pebble Beach and Laguna Seca instead.

They're alarmingly popular with bike messengers, although IMO riding one without brakes is suicidal. Even with a brake, they are a very unique experience, since they require a little more forethought and planning, and they simply won't let you give up (pedal or die). Since you're not fretting over gearing or cadence or efficiency or blending the workload between your muscular and cardiovascular systems, it becomes much easier to simply focus on turning the pedals and taking in the world around you. Before I got mine, it was described to me as being very "zen", and that's the perfect word for it. For rides where the terrain allows it, I prefer my FG over the CAAD, despite the fact that it's less comfortable and less practical - riding a fixed-gear is cycling at its purest.

If you're in the south bay, I'll let you try mine. You will understand then :party: