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Old 12-12-2013, 02:28 PM   #41
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Well gays, preliminary data for my N=1 (self) experiment is in.

Morning fasting blood sugar testing. Optimal is 70-85, 90-99 is marginal, and 100-110 is pre-diabetic.

A couple of months ago before I further reduced my starchy-food intake (which I had reduced some a couple of years ago), my morning blood sugar was typically 95-104.

A month ago after a couple of months of further reduced sugar/starch diet, it went to 85-95.

After 10 days of this resistant starch, the last 3 days of blood sugar showed 80,86,75. I have NEVER seen it below 85 before. And the 75 this morning.. I felt energetic and not weak nor hungry at all.

I'm thrilled at these results. This seems to be the final piece of the puzzle to get my blood sugar in the optimal range.

Naysayers can suck it.
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LOL, you might be waiting for a while. Just because their aren't large scale studies done on this yet, doesn't mean it's bullshit. Obviously it's working for Jason, for now at least.
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I farted.

Maybe it was the mac n'cheese from a box mixed with a can of tuna. Don't hate, it was extra after my daughter had her supper. My wife and I don't usually eat supper, and yep, we feed our daughter ghetto style sometimes when we get home late and are too tired to cook from scratch. Anyway, there was some left and I ate it. I was pretty gassy this morning but it might have had nothing to do with the potato starch. YMMV.
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Kraft mac n cheeze + canned tuna = awesome. It will make your blood sugar to below 85.
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LOL, you might be waiting for a while. Just because their aren't large scale studies done on this yet, doesn't mean it's bullshit. Obviously it's working for Jason, for now at least.
I am not making a claim that it works or not, just suggesting that a single datapoint provided here is hardly compelling scientifically.
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a single datapoint provided here is hardly compelling scientifically
Thus my first line, "N=1 experiment".

The reason I was so interested in trying this, is because
a) there are many studies that suggest that RS reduces fasting blood glucose, *and* post-prandial BG.
b) there are several commenters in the comments to the blog I linked, that claimed the same.

If something works for you, will you stop doing it because of lack of "large scale scientific studies"? Or, if an experiment is easy to try with a potential big upside and little downside, will you not do it?
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Why is keeping your blood glucose low so important? Here. I don't know if there are "large scale scientific studies". But the existing evidence is enough for me. You gays can all turn decrepit from neolithic diseases:

https://www.google.com/search?q=bloo...g%2C+longevity
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I don't know, I'm hardly anti-science, but there's lots of very scientifically-compelling large scale studies that turned out to be bunk. N=1 isn't conclusive, but it's a start.
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It's important to understand the limitations of large-scale epidemiological studies. This is a pretty important read:

Science, Pseudoscience, Nutritional Epidemiology, and Meat
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It's important to understand the limitations of large-scale epidemiological studies. This is a pretty important read:

Science, Pseudoscience, Nutritional Epidemiology, and Meat
Good article.
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Old 12-13-2013, 04:49 PM   #52
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Another update.

The farting didn't start til about the 3rd day. I thought it would go away.

GODDAM my ******* needs a rest. On some days I fart for 2 days straight. Holy hell is there no gut bacteria that consumes the gas and turns it into rosewater or lavender??
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Old 12-13-2013, 10:28 PM   #54
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WTF are you eating? I've been using 4tbs per day for quite a few days without but a little touch of that one morning. It is normal the rest of the time.
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I noticed it gets really bad when I have certain vegetables in the same meal. (onions, cauliflower)

I skipped one dose and only had 1 tbsp the next day, because I had a flotation tank session and didn't want to die in it from my own emissions. Mercifully, it stopped.

I plan to continue with 1 tbsp 2x/day and slowly ramp back up to 2 tbsp.
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I'm eating a variety of things as I am not on any type of "diet" and am seeing no irregular gaseous emissions. Situation normal.
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Jason, how are you testing blood sugar? The same way a diabetic patient does?
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$9 meter, highly reviewed for accuracy and small *****, comes with 10 strips:

Amazon.com: Freestyle Lite Blood Glucose Monitoring System: Health & Personal Care Amazon.com: Freestyle Lite Blood Glucose Monitoring System: Health & Personal Care

Add'l 50 strips:
Amazon.com: Freestyle LITE Blood Glucose Test Strips NEW Butterfly Design 1 box of 50: Health & Personal Care Amazon.com: Freestyle LITE Blood Glucose Test Strips NEW Butterfly Design 1 box of 50: Health & Personal Care


Why I started doing this: I noticed my A1c (average blood sugar) from yearly blood testing was creeping up. I noticed it, my doctor didn't flag it. Chris Kresser explains that if you see this you have to nip it in the bud. Do NOT wait for it to cross the mainstream's fine line from "you're fine" to "you're diabetic, start these meds for life":

When your “normal” blood sugar isn’t normal (Part 1)
Why your ?normal? blood sugar isn?t normal (Part 2)
How to prevent diabetes and heart disease for $16 <-- note the meter I linked appears better reviewed than the one he mentions
Why hemoglobin A1c is not a reliable marker

I used up a few dozen strips by starting a diary of these measurements:
- fasting morning
- before meals
- peak after meals after various meals.
- 90 minutes after various meals

I was looking for trends. I'm an engineer, data is good

My observation was that my fasting BG wasn't optimal, and I was very sensitive to starch - I was getting high post-meal peaks on relatively small amounts of starch, e.g. a whole banana in my smoothie, 2 buns on a burger, the flour on a tempura, sweet sauce in chinese food (without eating any rice!). However the peak came and went very quickly, and with a mainly starch meal (e.g. pasta), my BG crashed very quickly afterwards. I had *reactive hypoglycemia*, which can be a precursor to diabetes later on. I also noticed that beer would spike my BG but not wine or bourbon. So I learned to mix cocktails using Stevia. And 2 weeks after starting on the indigestible starch, my post-meal spikes appear significantly lower. I plan to have more pizza

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Another update.

The farting didn't start til about the 3rd day.
This is ripe for a title change. The mods have gotten lazy
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$9 meter, highly reviewed for accuracy and small *****
Wait, you pick out the farting quote but don't highlight this sentence?
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