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mgeoffriau 10-17-2015 09:36 PM


Originally Posted by TorqueZombie (Post 1276033)
The grinder is metal, but the post grind shoots are plastic and high temp silicone. I'll see if I can get a temp probe in it this week and see what the water gets to.

My concern with plastic wouldn't be in the grinder mechanism, but in the brewing mechanism. I'm not a fan of heating plastics in liquids or foods I'm about to consume.

Reverend Greg 10-18-2015 04:52 AM

I have been drinking coffee, for the sheer pleasure of it, for 28years.
Cafe Bustelo, gold pour over filter & settled cold water heated to 200*.
9/10ths coffee in fifteen minutes, and about 40 cents a cup.
I've owned,and do own various methods of brewing but,I've gotten it down to the bare essentials.
Greg

turbofan 11-17-2015 01:28 AM

Bought an aeropress yesterday. Have made 3 cups so far. First one was OK. Second one was kinda nasty. The one this morning was pretty darn good.

Using Stumptown "new season's holiday roast" beans that were roasted on Saturday. Tee hee. And a super cheap $20 keurig blade grinder.

I think rather than spending the money on a grinder, I'll just buy quality grounds and go with that in the future. We shall see.

18psi 11-17-2015 09:18 AM

I bought a manual carbide burr grinder on amazon for like 27
throw that blade grinder in the trash and get one, consistency is purdy important.

I've found the most common way to ruin the taste with an aeropress is by burning the coffee. if you're using boiling water, you'll need to press right away and quickly. if you want to let it sit with inverted method, you must use 170-180* and not any more, and even then 3 min max.


..I think I've tried every Peets blend there is by now. I tend to fancy the darker roasts

y8s 11-17-2015 11:05 AM

I used some local roasted Beanetics cro magnon in my regular brewer and in the aeropress and crap I miss great coffee (instead of cheap/fair-to-good coffee).

The easiest way to deal with the hot water of the aeropress is to let the water boil then lift the container off the heat and wait for the roiling to cease. when the water is still, you're at around 200F give or take. It's pretty much the ideal temp. From there you have to tune your brewing with grind size or dwell. It's pretty hard to get "too bitter" from a blade grinder and water off the boil using an aeropress.

Blade grinder needs about 5 seconds (maybe 10?) to get small granules. Longer turns it to dust that will float away on a breeze.

Stick to 2 minutes max on the press. Subtract out 15 seconds if you're letting it bloom before pouring all the water in but keep the max to 2 minutes.

If you still end up with bitter coffee, it could be just too dark. Most mass market (peets included) will roast fairly dark compared to a local roaster. If your beans are shiny and an almost black shade of brown, they're over roasted.

For example, the "good" coffee we get at work is Kirkland Costa Rica. It doesn't mention roast on the bag, but these are clearly north of Vienna and somewhere around French roast:
https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/nz...JZkI5krE=s1024


Find something that doesn't shine and is still a chocolatey brown.

Girz0r 11-17-2015 11:32 AM

Coffee gurus. I need an opinion on a xmas coffee gift idea.

Best gift for a coffee drinker? Ultimate brew mug? Grinder? Exotic beans for all the yums?

Looking for something that is useful & convenient for daily use that doesn't break the bank.

turbofan 11-17-2015 11:36 AM


Originally Posted by y8s (Post 1284448)
I used some local roasted Beanetics cro magnon in my regular brewer and in the aeropress and crap I miss great coffee (instead of cheap/fair-to-good coffee).

The easiest way to deal with the hot water of the aeropress is to let the water boil then lift the container off the heat and wait for the roiling to cease. when the water is still, you're at around 200F give or take. It's pretty much the ideal temp. From there you have to tune your brewing with grind size or dwell. It's pretty hard to get "too bitter" from a blade grinder and water off the boil using an aeropress.

Blade grinder needs about 5 seconds (maybe 10?) to get small granules. Longer turns it to dust that will float away on a breeze.

Stick to 2 minutes max on the press. Subtract out 15 seconds if you're letting it bloom before pouring all the water in but keep the max to 2 minutes.

If you still end up with bitter coffee, it could be just too dark. Most mass market (peets included) will roast fairly dark compared to a local roaster. If your beans are shiny and an almost black shade of brown, they're over roasted.

For example, the "good" coffee we get at work is Kirkland Costa Rica. It doesn't mention roast on the bag, but these are clearly north of Vienna and somewhere around French roast:
https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/nz...JZkI5krE=s1024


Find something that doesn't shine and is still a chocolatey brown.

My beanz (not to be confused with my nutz but I can send pics of those later bby)


https://cimg2.ibsrv.net/gimg/www.mia...82eb9189e9.jpg

18psi 11-17-2015 11:58 AM

kirkland costa rica is available at my local costco
you're saying it's good stuff?

it doesn't have a roast date on it, does that not mean that it's probably a few months old?

Agreed regarding peets dark being really dark, but I likes it that way. And I love that all their blends clearly have date of roasting stamps on em, which is more than most common dept store coffee's do

I'm staying away from baller 40-50/bag beans for now until I get on a higher level of coffee snob :dealwithit:

y8s 11-17-2015 01:17 PM

No I meant "good" in quotes. Like compared to the mediocre crap we usually get. Or compared to sanka. work has lower standards than I do and is more cost sensitive. we stopped buying peets autoship a long time ago.

turbofan 11-17-2015 03:29 PM

Comments on my beans? Those really are my beans, took that photo this morning.

demoniam 11-17-2015 07:31 PM

Fuck yeah, coffee people!

I've been in to the Aeropress for a year or so great cup of coffee, and easy to experiment with. With the bend I'm using now (Sumatran Dark roast) I go 2 scoops 190 water, 30 second bloom, fill, stir, and be for 2 minutes. On weekdays it's poured into my protein shake.
Thinking of taking it to work, and picking up a chemex for the house. Also need an electric kettle.

18psi 11-17-2015 07:38 PM

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got this at the house

https://www.miataturbo.net/attachmen...ine=1447807090

delicious, but kinda wasteful (takes a full 5-6 teaspoons for a "3 cup" size, which really is 1 really potent cup)

and also have this

https://www.miataturbo.net/attachmen...ine=1447807090

Much more economical, but nowhere near as potent/strong flavor



Ed,
No idea on your beans, but they're not shiny, which according to most snobs, means they're good?

Joe Perez 11-17-2015 07:46 PM


Originally Posted by 18psi (Post 1284663)

That's how I was taught to make coffee as a kid.

I still have a 30+ year old Moka pot.

Was kind of surprised when Rev Greg mentioned making Cafe Bustelo in an aeropress. The thought that it could be brewed in anything other than an espresso machine or moka pot never even occurred to me. Like using those expensive lambskin condoms to cover your fingers while doing an oil-change...

Reverend Greg 11-17-2015 09:08 PM


Originally Posted by Joe Perez (Post 1284665)
That's how I was taught to make coffee as a kid.

I still have a 30+ year old Moka pot.

Was kind of surprised when Rev Greg mentioned making Cafe Bustelo in an aeropress. The thought that it could be brewed in anything other than an espresso machine or moka pot never even occurred to me. Like using those expensive lambskin condoms to cover your fingers while doing an oil-change...

I use a gold pour over filter. No paper to get in the way. I pour the water, stir it once and let it drip. It really does a good job, albeit a little wasteful.
Greg

Jeffbucc 11-17-2015 10:04 PM

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I just picked up a Baratza Encore burr grinder and a stainless steel reusable filter for my Aeropress...dear god, a quality burr grinder makes all the difference with your esperesso. So smooth!

Using Caffe Ibis beans from this company out of Northern Utah, super good quality stuff, ask for Mike tell him Jeff from Great Harvest set you up.

https://www.miataturbo.net/attachmen...ine=1447815912

18psi 11-17-2015 10:47 PM

doesnt a steel filter make the aero into a regular french press?

kinda sorta?

Leafy 11-17-2015 10:50 PM


Originally Posted by 18psi (Post 1284713)
doesnt a steel filter make the aero into a regular french press?

kinda sorta?

It seems kind of like you'd lose the nice fine particle filtration of the paper and no longer be able to use espresso grind.

Jeffbucc 11-17-2015 10:51 PM

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Why would it? Just makes it easier to make coffee in the morning, the filtration is just as good as paper as well. $12 and you spray it off with water and wipe it down, good to go!

http://ecx.images-amazon.com/images/...L._SL1500_.jpg

18psi 11-17-2015 10:52 PM

maybe that one is uber fine, I dunno
if it works thats pretty cool, but you still gotta take it out and clean the thing, so kinda not much less work

Leafy 11-17-2015 10:52 PM

Its nearly the same price as 3 years worth of paper, and I have to clean it.


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