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Old 11-29-2007, 06:14 PM   #21
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yeah, but the power/efficiency of the 3MZ-FE or the 1MZ-FE is just too big of a draw over a 4 cyl. toughest part will be finding a Mr2 turbo transmission with the build in LSD.
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... 3sgte better than the camry swap haha, i will continue to post this until accept it.
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but the 3sgte has nowhere near the torque, and weighs the same amount, wheres the advantage?
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... 3sgte better than the camry swap haha, i will continue to post this until accept it.
you keep posting. you are right. those v6 engines in stock form dont make the same torque or power as a 3sgte can. if its stock v6 to slightly upped boost 3sgte, the 3s wins every time.

if you turbo the v6 however... the ball game changes :-)
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but i'm wanting something that is reliable which means i'm keeping it relatively stock. Comparing stock numbers i do believe the v6's win
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depends which one you compare with.

if you take a modern 3sgte it wins on hp by a significant amount, and loses on torque by a little bit. add just 2psi of boost extra, and it will win on both and be factory reliable.

the truth of the 3sgte is that the ct26 found on them is totally crap.

if fitted with a decent turbo and some good manifolds, it could walk on the v6 with good reliability.

plus upgrades are easy as pie with a mild turbo setup. just unmild it.

its a personal choice thing. if you cam up the v6 somewhat out of 'fe' emissions/econo spec it would be a lovely thing i'm sure.

i just have this unrealistic expectation for all NA engines to make 100hp per litre. if they dont, they fall short. the bare minimum is 75/l which those engines struggle to meet. they are built to pull wagons around :-) if you like torque, go for it.

engine swaps are a personal thing anyway. whats best for me isnt for you no doubt.

do what makes you happy! if not, you'll regret it anyway.
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depends which one you compare with.

if you take a modern 3sgte it wins on hp by a significant amount, and loses on torque by a little bit. add just 2psi of boost extra, and it will win on both and be factory reliable.

the truth of the 3sgte is that the ct26 found on them is totally crap.

if fitted with a decent turbo and some good manifolds, it could walk on the v6 with good reliability.

plus upgrades are easy as pie with a mild turbo setup. just unmild it.

its a personal choice thing. if you cam up the v6 somewhat out of 'fe' emissions/econo spec it would be a lovely thing i'm sure.

i just have this unrealistic expectation for all NA engines to make 100hp per litre. if they dont, they fall short. the bare minimum is 75/l which those engines struggle to meet. they are built to pull wagons around :-) if you like torque, go for it.

engine swaps are a personal thing anyway. whats best for me isnt for you no doubt.

do what makes you happy! if not, you'll regret it anyway.
yeah i do like torque, my 240 spoils me compared to the miata. I just want at least one all motor car and i'm looking at this being it, its small and light enough to not have to worry about getting gobs of power to push it. Thx for all the info guys, if i get the car i'll post pics
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