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Project84 07-22-2009 08:28 PM

MT.net may be ruining my life. (g/f drama inside)
 
Okay fellas.

Two days ago I was surfing miata turbo at work and all the sudden the website stopped working for me... I get an odd feeling they were watching me through the network and blocked it. So I'm sweating bullets waiting to get an email or a phone call telling me I owe the company $x,xxx in all the time I've wasted sitting in front of MT.net on their dime.

Tonight I'm on here again and the g/f walks in and tells me I'm stagnant and I need a life change. I explain I don't feel like I need any change at all. I'm buying a fixer upper house as she knows, to invest my time/effort/money into.. and how school just isn't on my mind right now. She's been in college 6 years and is signed up for 4 more for pharmacy school.... education nazi chasing the all-mighty dollar. Then she bitches about me sitting here rather than working out (oddly enough she just started working out 2 weeks ago) even though I was working out from Oct-Apr when my membership got cancelled (was on a family plan... long story). I blow the hell up ranting about how my life is the shit - however boring it may be - and how I'm content and "I'll do MY LIFE, you do YOUR LIFE." She says I need to get up and do SOMETHING... then proceeds to cry.

Dewds... wtf should I be doing?

I'm 23. (EDIT: Live on my own, have since I was 19) I've been out of school a year an a half, have no career ambitions (honestly: I want to do SOMETHING, just can't decide what...) which is why I stopped going to community college, and I was paying for it out of pocket because I refuse to get swallowed up by student loans. I've got $15k in the bank, made $42k last year doing maintenance thanks to my boss retiring 2 years ago and me taking his spot. Have 3 cars, 2 of which need work (rear end for the camaro, miata needs lots of attention). I own all my own shit, have no debt, and close on my first house Monday. Appraisal value is $120k.


I'm telling you all this because I figure the more details the better to evaluate me by.

WTF am I apparantly doing wrong here?

Do I need moral suport ("it's okay to be content and just relax...") or do I need a swift kick in the pants?

She just came back in bitching that she thinks I need to read over an occupational handbook and start aiming towards one of them as my goal... I've never really had any one career that stuck out in my mind that I wanted to do, which is why I've sorta fallen into what I do now.

/rant

\frustration...

KPLAFIN 07-22-2009 08:34 PM

Join the army...you'll get paid to get way from her and you'll be doing something with yourself .... National Gard would have the same results for a little while, then just the latter half afterwards.

Project84 07-22-2009 08:37 PM

I've never enjoyed the thought of moving, otherwise I would've joined the army years ago to make my Father proud. He was in for 6 years.

Fact: I was forced to move w/ my parents from Northern KY to Cleveland, OH (250 miles) at age 18, which provoked me to move out and come back to Northern KY at age 19 and begin my life.

Plus like I said, I just bought a house... I won't be going anywhere for quite a while because of that.

elesjuan 07-22-2009 08:42 PM

Ditch her? Sounds like a money grubber.. :P

I have no constructive advice to add. My relationship skills are poor at best. Good luck, Sir.

wayne_curr 07-22-2009 08:45 PM

You're fine man. Nothin wrong with the way your shit is going. Just because she cant imagine how you could be happy not busting your ass in school toward some occupation doesn't mean she needs to kill your buzz.

I'm 23 as well (in 8 days) and just starting in school (first year). I love it, but it was by no pressure from my girlfriend or anyone else that I decided to go. My girlfriend has been supportive of anything I want to do, even wasting money on my car and autocrossing. Hell, she even helps me work on my car and autocrosses with me. She was even supportive of me when I decided to quit my $40/hr job and start living the american dream of student loan debt.

You need one like that.

kotomile 07-22-2009 08:47 PM

I have a house on the other side of the country and I'm in the Army, good way to make money. ;)

"I'll do my life, you do yours" doesn't sound like something you say to someone you want to keep around for the long haul. Perception is reality, if she thinks you're stagnant, then that's that.

hustler 07-22-2009 08:49 PM

1. leave the bitch or cheat on her...then leave her
2. join peace core


seriously. I work for the federal government as a public servant because I don't care about making a bunch of money for someone I don't care about, I like helping people, even if its a convoluted path to the product. I don't go to work every day to make money for some share-holder to maintain his yacht, I administer a program that helps people.

Life is bigger than money, so make your career something bigger.

hustler 07-22-2009 08:50 PM


Originally Posted by wayne_curr (Post 433590)
She was even supportive of me when I decided to quit my $40/hr job and start living the american dream of student loan debt.

You need one like that.

I fish a lot but I rarely catch a marlin. ;)

thirdgen 07-22-2009 08:59 PM

Turn up the boost, that seems to be the MiataTurbo.net answer to all problems. Plus it'll make you feel better about your life.

Project84 07-22-2009 08:59 PM


Originally Posted by kotomile (Post 433593)
I have a house on the other side of the country and I'm in the Army, good way to make money. ;)

"I'll do my life, you do yours" doesn't sound like something you say to someone you want to keep around for the long haul. Perception is reality, if she thinks you're stagnant, then that's that.

I have no way of ensuring the house doesn't get vandalized... no one to live there while I'm gone. Well, I'm sure some freeloaders would, but to hell w/ that. I'd rather live in it, fix it up, sell and make a profit. How do you go about keeping the yard mowed/fixtures working/making sure no pipes have burst/etc from across the country?

The second point you make is great. Honestly it's something I've given a lot of thought lately. That is, how far into my future I see her. I guess realistically I don't see us making it through the next few years while she's gone at school 100 miles away... she doesn't either, as she's already voiced her opinion on that matter.

Hustler - inspirational on your career. I'd like to follow a path similar to that, helping others and all.... had ambitions to become a fireman. Hell, I'm 1/2 through all my certified training hours, but I haven't been active in that field in 4 years. I do miss it though. Just a TON of volunteer work leading up to the "eligibility" for being hired. No certainty. Lots of lay-offs in that lately too.

neogenesis2004 07-22-2009 09:05 PM

She's probably already cheating on you, why she's started working out....

< I'm an asshole

y8s 07-22-2009 09:12 PM

chances are you are wasting too much life on MT and she's right. and she only brings it up because you dont have a 9 inch dong to cram up in her.

but some things you just gotta do and miataturbo is probably one of them. just try to regulate it some.

kotomile 07-22-2009 09:24 PM


Originally Posted by Project84 (Post 433602)
...How do you go about keeping the yard mowed/fixtures working/making sure no pipes have burst/etc from across the country?

The second point you make is great...

Easy, just have good tenants. My first tenants were terrible (I expected much more from a Staff Sergeant) and my current tenant is my sister-in-law. Not everyone can have the luxury of having relatives as renters, true, but if it were Joe Anybody I'd be charging a lot more than I am now to help make up for the hassle of renting to strangers (I can't think of a better term than strangers ATM...) especially since property taxes have risen.

About the gf, it sounds like you know what the deal will eventually be. IMHO if you're thinking like you say you are then she's not "the one". If you just haven't gotten around to breaking up with her because you need a booty call (I can't think of a better term than booty call ATM...) until your relationship becomes long distance then that's your prerogative. http://smiliesftw.com/x/otcrash2.gif

hustler 07-22-2009 09:29 PM

dude...the economy sucks, you have no job, you haven't bought that house yet...do peace corps. If I had known of it, I would have done it too.

Project84 07-22-2009 09:46 PM

y8s - the dong thing is off. No worries there. ;)
- Maybe regulating the MT.net would be a good thing.

Koto - no way in hell I'd rent to someone I didn't know. You're lucky to have family in there now!

I've heard "the one" be mentioned from a lot of my friends (most of my friends are 30+ and married) so I assume "knowing" is a true occurance. I guess I just haven't felt it yet. Been really serious with 3 girls and thought it would be nice to be w/ them in the future, but never really felt like I "knew" any of them were "the one." Frustrating.

hustler 07-22-2009 10:03 PM

women thrive off that "the one" shit. Just like a career path, or life in general...some of the choices and paths we take aren't a black and white right or wrong. I've met a few women that I could still be with and be happy. I could be writing code in a cube somewhere driving a Ferrari, trading stocks or selling real-estate and lease a Kia right now, but "Day of Terror" hit then Hurricane Katrina hit and it scored me a job that's turned out to be a path.

So she's most likely not "the one" and more likely "on of the few." Get your career and social role in order so then you can find a woman to serve as icing on the cake.

samnavy 07-22-2009 10:44 PM

Did you say you had a 4-year degree?

ZX-Tex 07-22-2009 10:47 PM

FWIW my wife has complained about me spending too much time on here. She is somewhat right so I have tried to regulate it some. She goes to bed earlier than I so I wait until she is out then I come here for some late evening chill time.

My education is paying off for me even though I was a late starter, did not graduate until I was 27. Did not know what I wanted when I got out of High School. Eventually figured it out, went to college. I figured out what I was good at (Mech Engineering), went for it, and am very glad I did in retrospect. Now I have a great job that pays well.

Now all that aside, college is not for everyone, and is not the only path to success as shown by many. It is also not a foolproof path. Lots of well educated people end up not doing so well. I knew guys in the early 90s that had Post-Doctorate degrees in Biology that were making $25K a year doing research they did not like. More than one of them were not happy with their work.

I could ramble on and on... I think ultimately the key is to figure out what you are good at and/or what your bliss is. Pursue it, work hard, and paths to success will open up. More importantly you will enjoy the ride. Enjoying your work IMO is important than how much you make. Even if I could go get an MBA, and make double my salary in upper management at a Fortune 500 company, I would hate my job, and mostly hate life. I could do it, but I would not like it. I am a techie at heart.

There are lots of resources out there to help you figure out what you like and what you are good at. For example before starting college I took a couple of computer-based tests at a couple of college career centers; they were these looooong multi-choice qestionairres that ultimately boiled it all down to a summary that was remarkably spot-on for me. I am not sure what the contemporary version is but you can probably find something.

Or hell, if you like your current job and your current situation, then just keep doing what you are doing. All is well despite what the GF thinks. You definitely sound like you have your financial situation in order. But, look at the bright side. If you can keep things good with her, she will make some serious coin as a pharmacist when she graduates. More turboz! :giggle:

y8s 07-22-2009 11:31 PM

my gf might be annoyed by my presence here but I just tell her I volunteer for a small community and she doesn't bother me anymore.

at least she understands the "new posts" feature expires if I dont read fast.

hustler 07-22-2009 11:36 PM

The reason your GF acts like a bitch around you is because after she's been with me, no one can compete. I showed her what it was like to be with a man, so its time to step up your game and be a man. Break that ho off!

WESamiss 07-23-2009 12:03 AM


Originally Posted by KPLAFIN (Post 433582)
Join the army...you'll get paid to get way from her and you'll be doing something with yourself .... National Gard would have the same results for a little while, then just the latter half afterwards.

I did just this. Let me tell you, we were in the same boat. I had my own house (renting), I had a 240sx with about 400hp, work and beer all day EVERYday. I loved life. I dont know why i did it but i quit my 32k year job and joined the airforce. Now im depressed, and making lots less then 20k a year.
My choice also hurt my family life.

I have to tell you, the choice i made wasnt for me. BUT dont think im telling you it was a bad choice. I will have a great thing to add to my resume for the job in the future.
Like you, I didnt know what i wanted to do with my life.

Go Air National Guard or Reserve, its cake work. Also you get paid for it. And if you ever lose your job, you can transfer to active duty.
If you go at all.

OH YEAH, if you want to keep the girl, do not join. It WILL end the relationship.

Stein 07-23-2009 12:04 AM


Originally Posted by neogenesis2004 (Post 433605)
She's probably already cheating on you, why she's started working out....

< I'm an asshole

OK, serious answer. You asked for it and I'm giving you my best answer. I read all of the posts before replying in case it has already been covered.

I quoted neo because I don't think he is an asshole. I thought the same thing when I read your post. Her working out is her starting to mentally "move on".

While I don't think she is already cheating, she is considering it or at least leaving so that she can pursue other options. She is career driven. You, by admission, are not. She is considering life decisions and is checking (by her questions) if your views align with hers. Your answers are telling her volumes and making her decision for her. I'm sure she is attacted to you. She is deciding if you are worth a long term investment. You need to do the same.

I'm thinking that your comment about each doing their own thing tells me that you like the convenience of the relationship but don't really have a vested interest in the long haul. If she sticks around and accepts you as you are, great. If not, great. Either way works for you.

You (or others) might think that I am pretty egotistical to formulate all of these opinions from a few paragraphs that you wrote. I do it from experience as I was in your shoes, relationship-wise with my first wife. We were great at the beginning (met in college) and married. A couple of years into it I started working night shift. We rarely saw each other. I resented not being able to spend time with my friends (they were all still single) so I just finally started doing it.

Everything started going great. I was able to go fishing, go away for weekends with the guys, play poker Friday and Saturday nights. She never complained. I figured I had it pretty good.

Another year passes. At one time I actually said "you make a great roommate". Life went on, I worked, played. All was good. Finally I find out that she is having an affair with a guy at her work. It all fell apart in two days. We divied up the stuff, sold the house and each went our own way. She did go on to marry the guy. I guess she is happy. I was devastated for a few months. I thought I had it all.

I was single for three years. Had a great time. Got remarried again 12 years ago. (at 30 this time, she was 36 and never married) We get along great.

Well, that's too much about me and more than I've dropped on a forum before, but I think that you can see where I came off with the comments that I did above now. I lived it. You are living it now. How you go forward from here is for you alone to decide.

SKMetalworks 07-23-2009 01:00 AM

Sounds like the only reason your staying with her is for a booty call like somone said earlier. If you know that your not going to spend the rest of the life with her... then kick her out. Most ( i say this loosly) people date to find "the one." When your dating you get to know the person and when you are at the point where you know that she isn't the one. Time for the next one. Theres more girls in the world than guys; so we have our pick. Men have to have hobbies or else we will go insane. On the other hand, you have to work, to make it. A relationship is give and take.

Make the right choice, kick her to the kurb

zoomin 07-23-2009 01:09 AM

Not sure where to start, but I will try to offer some advice. I'm 31 and am in the middle of a career change and going back to school. I spent 5 years in the Army from age 18-23 and am still figuring out what I want to do with my life almost 9 years after being discharged. I was seriously injured in the Army and will draw a check the rest of my life, not enough to really live on but it helps. But between that and my GI Bill it comes out to the equivalent of making about $36k a year. I have almost zero debt and have a pretty good life not having to work.

Here is the downside, I have a very hard time focusing on school and am barely passing some of my classes. I am a genius by nature and was documented at a young age, but can barely sit still outside of a classroom. But I realize that in order to be successful I do need more education than I currently have. I have my real estate license and even worked as a mechanic before, neither of which I want to do as a career. So for now I am just taking general ed classes to try and figure out what to do with my life in hopes of falling into something that fits me as a person.

My girlfriend is 34, very stable, and very beautiful. We are opposites when it comes to education and managing our time, but we have never met anyone else we have communicated as well with as we do with each other. She gets irritated when I wait until the last minute to do my homework, but she is happy to help sometimes. We balance each other out in many ways, so we stay hopeful that we will find a way to make it work.

My marketing professor once told me that no matter what it might pay, you need to do a job your heart is into, otherwise you will never be happy. He told me the story of a commercial pilot who was unhappy with his job. When asked what he really loved to do, he said he wanted to work at a plumbing and hardware store he had worked at as a high school student. After some adjustment and budgeting, his family relocated back to Idaho and he ended up owning that store. He made 1/3 of his piloting salary, but never regretted it.

What it boils down to is what makes YOU happy. If you are in school, are you doing it for you or someone else? If you feel you can find a decent job that you are happy with, do it!

Forgot to add that she is glad I have many hobbies, just doesn't want it getting in the way of homework! That is the hardest part for me!!

zoomin 07-23-2009 01:14 AM


Originally Posted by hustler (Post 433595)
1. leave the bitch or cheat on her...then leave her
2. join peace core


seriously. I work for the federal government as a public servant because I don't care about making a bunch of money for someone I don't care about, I like helping people, even if its a convoluted path to the product. I don't go to work every day to make money for some share-holder to maintain his yacht, I administer a program that helps people.

Life is bigger than money, so make your career something bigger.

Does hustler actually have a heart in there? Seriously, what do you do and what are the requirements?

kenzo42 07-23-2009 01:16 AM

You might have been a documented genius while young, but does that still makes you a genius at present time? I'm curious.

Can precocious development at a young age play into being considered a "genius"?

zoomin 07-23-2009 01:40 AM


Originally Posted by kenzo42 (Post 433702)
You might have been a documented genius while young, but does that still makes you a genius at present time? I'm curious.

Can precocious development at a young age play into being considered a "genius"?

What happened was we moved from NC to Maine when I was young and it messed me up pretty badly, never really adjusted socially. But when I joined the Army my scores were high enough to qualify for Officer Candidate School(OCS), even though my high school grades suffered severely. If I hadn't been hurt I would likely be flying for the border patrol at this point, I scored well on the Flight Aptitude Selection Test just before my accident. I was in Aviation and worked with the fuel systems on helicopters, so it was my hope to eventually fly.

BradC 07-23-2009 08:51 AM


Originally Posted by zoomin (Post 433699)
Does hustler actually have a heart in there? Seriously, what do you do and what are the requirements?

That or he's used that line enough trying to pull tail that he's starting to believe it...

Braineack 07-23-2009 09:11 AM


Originally Posted by Project84 (Post 433579)
Okay fellas.

Two days ago I was surfing miata turbo at work and all the sudden the website stopped working for me... I get an odd feeling they were watching me through the network and blocked it. So I'm sweating bullets waiting to get an email or a phone call telling me I owe the company $x,xxx in all the time I've wasted sitting in front of MT.net on their dime.


19755 posts. > 458 posts.

olderguy 07-23-2009 09:15 AM


Originally Posted by Braineack (Post 433763)
19755 posts. = NO LIFE!

:bowrofl:

Braineack 07-23-2009 09:17 AM


Originally Posted by olderguy (Post 433765)

Originally Posted by Braineack (Post 433763)
19755 posts. = NO LIFE!

:bowrofl:

And I'm still happily married. Dump the bitch, buy a cat, profit.

Braineack 07-23-2009 09:37 AM


Originally Posted by Braineack (Post 433766)

Originally Posted by olderguy (Post 433765)

Originally Posted by Braineack (Post 433763)
19755 posts. = NO LIFE!

:bowrofl:

And I'm still happily married. Dump the bitch, buy a cat, profit.


and this is how we keep the spark alive:


Originally Posted by My Wife - Thu, Jul 23, 2009 at 9:35 AM
will you do it [to me] tonight? i know you have hot plans to play MMORPGs and other gay shit, but you could postpone that for one night.


Newbsauce 07-23-2009 09:52 AM

Here's my thoughts:
Job
I've been to northern KY, and I fucking love it there (Florence). If your making 42k still, that's a solid amount for that area since the cost of living is dirt cheap. I saw new construction in the 170s, so I can imagine your 120k house is pretty nice. So if your happy with your job, do your job. If you aren't.. start looking for some other field (you know the IRS is there, which is a good fed job) to fund your....

Cars/Projects
Owning a house is a huge step, I signed my life away on one just yesterday! I'd recommend maybe shedding some of those projects in favor of taking on the house as a project. Might be time to part with your mullet and your camaro if the miata is already your project. The woman or you will always have a house project you will be working on in the future which you will need time for.. leading to....

The Bitch
This is a tough area, don't listen to everyone on MT.net about women. Your 23, bear in mind, most people are having unprotected promiscuous sex at this age. Maybe getting a little rash or two. You need to ask yourself whether or not this bitch is the one for the future. I'm going to guess the answer is most likely no (unless it has been long term). The gym thing is good, that means she cares how she looks. Unfortunately, gym go-ers and non gym go-ers rarely end up working out. Why? Because she will stare at ripped up dudes all day at the gym and going as a couple is pretty commonplace. Schooling... women NOT in the work force do NOT understand what it's like to come home after a long day at work. I was working 50 hr weeks in the beginning (40 hrs work + 12 hrs of classes), and my girlfriend at the time was mad when I wanted a night to play volleyball because I did not spend enough time with her.
All that being said, don't put yourself through a struggle if she's not the one. DO NOT FORCE IT. Forcing it = marriage to someone you dont want to spend 50 years with. If she's not your best friend, she will eventually end up with half of what you worked hard to own.

leatherface24 07-23-2009 10:34 AM


Originally Posted by Braineack (Post 433771)
and this is how we keep the spark alive:

Originally Posted by My Wife - Thu, Jul 23, 2009 at 9:35 AM
will you do it [to me] tonight? i know you have hot plans to play MMORPGs and other gay shit, but you could postpone that for one night.


:laugh::bowrofl::bowrofl::bowrofl::laugh:

gospeed81 07-23-2009 10:55 AM


Originally Posted by Newbsauce (Post 433777)
DO NOT FORCE IT. Forcing it = marriage to someone you dont want to spend 50 years with. If she's not your best friend, she will eventually end up with half of what you worked hard to own.

Best damn non-car advice I've seen on this forum.

FRT_Fun 07-23-2009 11:22 AM

Don't join the military. I spend most of my days dreaming of the day I can GTFO. Sure, free school (plus E5 BAH) is a sweet deal, but not worth it IMO. I am pushing my luck on month 8 out here. Some people say they love it out here, but I don't believe it. Just the infantry ego. I guess if you work out a sweet deal and get to a strat location it isn't all that bad, but still have to deal with the usual Army/Military BS.

How much time do you spend on here daily? If it is over 3 hours that might be a problem. Although I am usually multitasking when I log on here, checking my email/classifieds/family website/instant messenger/facebook.. so I don't really count that.

Pitlab77 07-23-2009 11:25 AM


Originally Posted by hustler (Post 433595)

seriously. I work for the federal government as a public servant because I don't care about making a bunch of money for someone I don't care about, I like helping people, even if its a convoluted path to the product. I don't go to work every day to make money for some share-holder to maintain his yacht, I administer a program that helps people.

Life is bigger than money, so make your career something bigger.

Hum I actually agree with something hustler posted :2cents:

I to am a public servant and I love the fact that when I wake up I am helping children everyday. I worked at a bank for 1 week and i promptly walked out the door because I hated the feeling of having to up sell and "cheat" people out of money to make my living.

Life is bigger than money.

ZX-Tex 07-23-2009 12:16 PM

Also should throw in, if I married one of the chicks I was with when I was in my early 20s it would not have worked out for sure. One of the benefits of getting serious/married later in life. No reason to rush it IMO.

UrbanSoot 07-23-2009 01:16 PM

YOU NEED TO FUCK HER!

thats what your problem is.

me:
im 23 and i work 10-12 hours a day M-F and then another 4-10 hours on weekend. im completely broke because all our investors backed out after market crash and i basically survive on $2-4k/mo (coming from $11-15k/mo before that)

her:
shes 21 and works full time and her office is 5 minutes away from mine so we carpool to work.

us:
just moved to my apartment although we lived together at her place for over 5 years now and i had my place for about 4 years but we didnt come there at all.

our solution:
netflix and lots of fucking. neither her or me complain about how boring life is and i still get to work on my cars and whatever else i want to dedicate my time to.

wayne_curr 07-23-2009 01:19 PM


Originally Posted by UrbanSoot (Post 433861)
YOU NEED TO FUCK HER!



our solution:
netflix and lots of fucking. neither her or me complain about how boring life is and i still get to work on my cars and whatever else i want to dedicate my time to.

I gotta agree...lots of sex keeps the girlfriend meter high. If you aren't humping her, she's miserable.

ScottFW 07-23-2009 01:20 PM

$42K sounds like good money for Kentucky. It seems you are doing well financially for a 23-year-old. Don't feel compelled to chase more money because somebody else wants you to.

You'll know when a girl is "the one." But on the flip side, everybody "settles" to a certain extent when they get married. If I didn't settle, I'd probably be married to Scarlett Johansson or some other famous younger chick with a shitload of money and never have to work.

And if you have an argument with the GF and start thinking the grass may be greener with somebody else, remember that no matter how hot or perfect a chick may seem at first, somewhere in the world is a man who is tired of putting up with her shit. :laugh: You need to figure out if this was just an isolated argument and if your major life priorities are really compatible, or not. If she aspires to be upwardly mobile in society and you don't, that could be a problem. If she's hitting the gym and you are letting yourself go, that's definitely bad. Some bitching about your hobbies is normal, because most women don't have hobbies to fill their time to the extent that men do. However, if you're ignoring her while spending 6 hours a night on mt.net, she probably should leave your ass. You need to strike a balance.

She wants to see you put some effort into yourself because she respects herself and doesn't want to be with a slacker. This is the kind of attitude I like in a woman. Chicks with low self-esteem (I dated a few) just don't do it for me. If you are still serious about this chick, going to the gym with her would be a good idea. You can spend time with her while doing something that is good for you and that she views as productive. You can gawk at the other hotties at the gym, and she'll be staring at all the ripped guys, and then you can go home and have some pretty hot post-workout sex. It's a win-win.

Oh, and if you blew up at her to the point that she was crying, then I hate to be the bearer of bad news, but you are going to have to... wait for it... apologize. I know, it's a foreign concept to many men.:laugh:

UrbanSoot 07-23-2009 01:21 PM

does your g/f ever do this? if your answer is yes then that might be your problem.

http://img.4chan.org/b/src/1248367063299.jpg

UrbanSoot 07-23-2009 01:24 PM

by the way, i dont see any pics of said girlfriend. pics or it never happened!

nicacus 07-23-2009 01:37 PM


Originally Posted by neogenesis2004 (Post 433605)
She's probably already cheating on you, why she's started working out....

< I'm an asshole

+1
last girl I was dating did this.
We were engaged for a year before we broke up, two weeks after we broke up she was re-engaged and got married within two months.
all her working out was for nothing as she inflated like a balloon shortly after.

y8s 07-23-2009 01:40 PM

Rule #1: dont live with a girl you dont intend to marry

Rule #2: dont marry a girl you've never lived with

Braineack 07-23-2009 02:06 PM

Rule #3: More boost.

cueball1 07-23-2009 02:29 PM

Married at 21. We had good credit so we bought a house right away. A crappy tiny house in a crappy neighborhood. Couple of beater cars but they were reliable. I worked while she went to school, she was driven while I can enjoy just getting by. We scraped and saved but enjoyed cheap or free activities as much as possible. Concerts in the park, camping, road trips, etc.

Fast forward 23 years. We are still best friends, she's still driven and makes great money. Nice house, nice cars, toys etc. but we both still work ungodly hours. Are we any happier with newer bigger better? No. We just have more stuff and responsibilities. There is nothing wrong with being happy with what you have and where you are in life.

Ideally you'll find someone driven enough to be sucessful (that makes life a little easier) but doesn't need you to be driven too. I'm the slacker in my marriage and it works for us.

Miatamaniac92 07-23-2009 02:34 PM

Do what makes you happy (not what a SO or society tells you to) and the rest will follow. There's a difference between working at a relationship and doing something you genuinely don't like with your life.

It's obvious your objectives (current and long term) don't meet up with hers. Unless there is some crazy chemistry going on, it's not gonna work out.

Chris

Project84 07-23-2009 05:43 PM

Guys, I gotta just say I really appreciate all the overwhelming advice and opinions in here.

Thanks for keeping it civil (for the most part) and staying on point.

I'll come back in later and make remarks/quotes and hopefully shed a little more light.... although I was essentially just looking to hear from everyone, I want to address some things that've been mentioned.

:)

Project84 07-23-2009 10:14 PM


Originally Posted by samnavy (Post 433639)
Did you say you had a 4-year degree?

No. I've got 48 credit hours of gen eds with a focus on science.


Originally Posted by ZX-Tex (Post 433642)
Enjoying your work IMO is important than how much you make. Even if I could go get an MBA, and make double my salary in upper management at a Fortune 500 company, I would hate my job, and mostly hate life. I could do it, but I would not like it. I am a techie at heart.

My family for about 6 generations running has had maintenance types... I'm a maintenance manager for an airline catering company. I work on anything from water lines, boilers, electrical lines, roofing, HVAC, hi-lift catering trucks, ovens/mixers/fryers, tile floors, forklifts, flight dish machines, etc. I know what it's like to be a techie.


Originally Posted by ZX-Tex (Post 433642)
There are lots of resources out there to help you figure out what you like and what you are good at. For example before starting college I took a couple of computer-based tests at a couple of college career centers; they were these looooong multi-choice qestionairres that ultimately boiled it all down to a summary that was remarkably spot-on for me. I am not sure what the contemporary version is but you can probably find something.

I took the ASVAB in highschool and it said I'd be great at being a skilled surgeon, and something else... maybe like an airplane pilot? Can't remember.


Originally Posted by ZX-Tex (Post 433642)
Or hell, if you like your current job and your current situation, then just keep doing what you are doing. All is well despite what the GF thinks. You definitely sound like you have your financial situation in order. But, look at the bright side. If you can keep things good with her, she will make some serious coin as a pharmacist when she graduates. More turboz! :giggle:

See... I do like what I'm doing and how life is right now. Finances are all self-made and I'm a tight-ass.... which is why the Miata still doesn't run and my Camaro has had a bad posi unit for over a year.



Originally Posted by Stein (Post 433675)
While I don't think she is already cheating, she is considering it or at least leaving so that she can pursue other options.

Maybe. But she's not the cheating kind. That much I know beyond any doubt.


Originally Posted by Stein (Post 433675)
If she sticks around and accepts you as you are, great. If not, great. Either way works for you.

Yeah... kinda.:confused: Isn't it supposed to be that way? :facepalm:


Originally Posted by Newbsauce (Post 433777)
Here's my thoughts:
Job
I've been to northern KY, and I fucking love it there (Florence). If your making 42k still, that's a solid amount for that area since the cost of living is dirt cheap. I saw new construction in the 170s, so I can imagine your 120k house is pretty nice. So if your happy with your job, do your job. If you aren't.. start looking for some other field (you know the IRS is there, which is a good fed job) to fund your....

I live in Florence. :) New construction (3 bed, 1 and 1/2 bath, 1 car garage) goes for $120's here all day. To get a 2 car it's like $135k. My house is 34 years old (I wanted a house w/ character) but sold 4 years ago for $140k, I got it for $110k needing work.


Originally Posted by Newbsauce (Post 433777)
Cars/Projects
Owning a house is a huge step, I signed my life away on one just yesterday! I'd recommend maybe shedding some of those projects in favor of taking on the house as a project. Might be time to part with your mullet and your camaro if the miata is already your project. The woman or you will always have a house project you will be working on in the future which you will need time for.. leading to....

Planning on LOTS of home improvement work. Can't part w/ the Camaro. I've got a little over $2k invested in it and it makes 300+ wheel torque at 2600 rpm. It's not the fasted shit on 4 wheels but I love the brute. The woman isn't a live-in. The house is all mine.


Originally Posted by Newbsauce (Post 433777)
The Bitch
women NOT in the work force do NOT understand what it's like to come home after a long day at work....

All that being said, don't put yourself through a struggle if she's not the one. DO NOT FORCE IT. Forcing it = marriage to someone you dont want to spend 50 years with. If she's not your best friend, she will eventually end up with half of what you worked hard to own.

Well, we've been in multiple big blow-outs on the difference between my 8 to 10 hour WORK day and her 6 to 8 hour "work" day. She's a pharmacy tech. I'm skilled labor. Something she can't seem the grasp is why my back is fucked, feet hurt like hell, and knuckles are always sore and busted.

I don't really force anything. Truth is, I'm pretty blunt and rude about things, unwilling to see "both sides of the situation" in most cases, and too stubborn to change. My father's the same way.... a jerk. :giggle:


Originally Posted by ZX-Tex (Post 433825)
Also should throw in, if I married one of the chicks I was with when I was in my early 20s it would not have worked out for sure. One of the benefits of getting serious/married later in life. No reason to rush it IMO.

I'm FOR SURE not rushing anything.


Originally Posted by UrbanSoot (Post 433861)
YOU NEED TO FUCK HER!

Example... 10 minutes ago.
She goes in to get ready for bed. I come in, candles are lit... we're about to...... she's like, "finally a night together" and I'm like, "well, I told my friend I'd go shoot darts with him at 11 but... lets do this." :facepalm: I get denied, she puts up the block and tells me she doesn't want to unless I stay in, but doesn't want to make me cancel my plans. WTF? I could punch babies right now. (this is a true scenario that actually just took place... no shit... except the punching babies part)

Thing is, I had rules.. yes... rules with he not staying here ALL THE TIME because we tend to start bickering and annoying each other after about a week. She is in a summer course at Xavier university and my apartment is 40 miles closer to Xavier than her parent's house. Her and I talked about it and agreed she could "live here" until the class is over. It's been 2.5 weeks of non-stop being together, even all weekend, and that's why I'd rather go shoot darts than stay in and have awkward frustrating sex. Awkward and frustrating because now I know if we did it I'd feel like less of a man for letter her have pussy control over me.


Originally Posted by ScottFW (Post 433867)
$42K sounds like good money for Kentucky. It seems you are doing well financially for a 23-year-old. Don't feel compelled to chase more money because somebody else wants you to.

You'll know when a girl is "the one." But on the flip side, everybody "settles" to a certain extent when they get married. If I didn't settle, I'd probably be married to Scarlett Johansson or some other famous younger chick with a shitload of money and never have to work.

And if you have an argument with the GF and start thinking the grass may be greener with somebody else, remember that no matter how hot or perfect a chick may seem at first, somewhere in the world is a man who is tired of putting up with her shit. :laugh: You need to figure out if this was just an isolated argument and if your major life priorities are really compatible, or not. If she aspires to be upwardly mobile in society and you don't, that could be a problem. If she's hitting the gym and you are letting yourself go, that's definitely bad. Some bitching about your hobbies is normal, because most women don't have hobbies to fill their time to the extent that men do. However, if you're ignoring her while spending 6 hours a night on mt.net, she probably should leave your ass. You need to strike a balance.

She wants to see you put some effort into yourself because she respects herself and doesn't want to be with a slacker. This is the kind of attitude I like in a woman. Chicks with low self-esteem (I dated a few) just don't do it for me. If you are still serious about this chick, going to the gym with her would be a good idea. You can spend time with her while doing something that is good for you and that she views as productive. You can gawk at the other hotties at the gym, and she'll be staring at all the ripped guys, and then you can go home and have some pretty hot post-workout sex. It's a win-win.

Oh, and if you blew up at her to the point that she was crying, then I hate to be the bearer of bad news, but you are going to have to... wait for it... apologize. I know, it's a foreign concept to many men.:laugh:

Many good points there, mate. Noted.

Originally Posted by UrbanSoot (Post 433870)
by the way, i dont see any pics of said girlfriend. pics or it never happened!

I put a pick up in another thread.... you'll have to search for it. Not putting up any of her "good" pics... I'd rather not endure the shit talk from everyone. :)



Originally Posted by cueball1 (Post 433908)
Married at 21. We had good credit so we bought a house right away. A crappy tiny house in a crappy neighborhood. Couple of beater cars but they were reliable. I worked while she went to school, she was driven while I can enjoy just getting by. We scraped and saved but enjoyed cheap or free activities as much as possible. Concerts in the park, camping, road trips, etc.

Fast forward 23 years. We are still best friends, she's still driven and makes great money. Nice house, nice cars, toys etc. but we both still work ungodly hours. Are we any happier with newer bigger better? No. We just have more stuff and responsibilities. There is nothing wrong with being happy with what you have and where you are in life.

Ideally you'll find someone driven enough to be sucessful (that makes life a little easier) but doesn't need you to be driven too. I'm the slacker in my marriage and it works for us.

I wouldn't say I'm a slacker, I just haven't found something really worth giving up what I have, to pursue. I don't have it made, but I have enough for now to make me plenty happy. My job exposes me to foreign tasks quite often, so I'm always learning new trades/improving old skills which I find highly enlightening and challenging.

Braineack 07-23-2009 10:19 PM


Example... 10 minutes ago.
She goes in to get ready for bed. I come in, candles are lit... we're about to...... she's like, "finally a night together" and I'm like, "well, I told my friend I'd go shoot darts with him at 11 but... lets do this." I get denied, she puts up the block and tells me she doesn't want to unless I stay in, but doesn't want to make me cancel my plans. WTF? I could punch babies right now. (this is a true scenario that actually just took place... no shit... except the punching babies part)
oh. I seriously didn't know you were gay, this changes things.

albumleaf 07-23-2009 10:29 PM


Originally Posted by Project84 (Post 434080)
She goes in to get ready for bed. I come in, candles are lit... we're about to...... she's like, "finally a night together" and I'm like, "well, I told my friend I'd go shoot darts with him at 11 but... lets do this." :facepalm: I get denied, she puts up the block and tells me she doesn't want to unless I stay in, but doesn't want to make me cancel my plans. WTF? I could punch babies right now. (this is a true scenario that actually just took place... no shit... except the punching babies part)

Alright, this is pretty :giggle: You might be able to get away with this with certain people but you should know this shit shouldn't fly if you've been with her for that long.

Project84 07-23-2009 10:33 PM

2 years, 2 months, 13 days.

I mentioned going out with a friend earlier around 8:30..... so she knew I had plans to leave.

Stein 07-23-2009 10:42 PM

It's almost 11:00 your time and you are still here. Aren't you going to play darts?

TonyV 07-23-2009 10:48 PM


Originally Posted by Braineack (Post 434084)
oh. I seriously didn't know you were gay, this changes things.

:laugh::laugh::laugh:



On a serious note,

Dude, enjoy your life. Seems to me your in a great point in your life, got a level head on your shoulders, and frankly if I were in your position I wouldnt give it up for anything.

As for the girl, the example you just gave is kinda dumb. Easily couldve had you cake and eaten it too if you put a lil effort into it. As for the other previous issues such as life goals...remember that people dont really change. So you need to stick to your guns, and keep doing what your doing. If that means she's gonna lose interest and move on then so be it. Don't be talked into something thats not really you when it comes to life decisions man. Otherwise 10yrs from now you'll be doing something you hate, to make money for stuff you dont enjoy, coming home to a wife you resent, and being stuck there because of kids or some shit.

I'd say at your age, making the money ur making, where you're living, with your own house, your likes/dislikes, having fun, and getting laid.....who's better than you man?

UrbanSoot 07-24-2009 02:22 AM

i think you need to start ignoring her. dont actually ignore her completely like she doesnt exist though; just go to your "happy place" when she starts talking and just nod once in a while. works for me :)

Braineack 07-24-2009 09:08 AM


Originally Posted by albumleaf (Post 434088)
Alright, this is pretty :giggle: You might be able to get away with this with certain people but you should know this shit shouldn't fly if you've been with her for that long.

"...but... lets do this."

Romance at it's best. Way to let a lady know you care, right?

Might as well say: "It works better if you're a man."


The problem is not the GF, mt.net, or anything else. The problem is you. Dump her and contract AIDs from your gay buddies.

ScottFW 07-24-2009 11:06 AM


Originally Posted by Project84 (Post 434080)
Example... 10 minutes ago.
She goes in to get ready for bed. I come in, candles are lit... we're about to...... she's like, "finally a night together" and I'm like, "well, I told my friend I'd go shoot darts with him at 11 but... lets do this." :facepalm: I get denied, she puts up the block and tells me she doesn't want to unless I stay in, but doesn't want to make me cancel my plans. WTF?

:facepalm: indeed. I don't claim to know everything about women, but I can say with absolute certainty that you don't know shit.


Awkward and frustrating because now I know if we did it I'd feel like less of a man for letter her have pussy control over me.
Pussy control? Newsflash: Unless you're gay or a rapist, the woman is always the one who determines whether you get laid or not. Try to exercise cock control over her sometime and see what you accomplish. I'll tell you. Not a goddam thing. :laugh:

disturbedfan121 07-24-2009 11:08 AM

since when is being whipped a bad thing?........ever

gospeed81 07-24-2009 12:17 PM

Every man who says he's not pussy whipped is either not getting any, or is a liar.


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