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Old 02-08-2011, 07:33 AM   #21
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I take it that you are computer savvy?
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I take it that you are computer savvy?
A bit more than most.
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Ethernet. This isn't 1999! WiFi!
There are still a few applications where wired Ethernet connectivity is necessary. And, speaking from personal experience, there are few things more frustrating than driving all over Cape Canaveral trying to find a couple of wired 10/100 ethernet adapters with only a few hours before you have to be back on a ship that'll be pushing off with or without you, and finding nothing but wireless, wireless, and more wirelesss...


Several years ago, a co-worker of mine owned a home in the Cincinnati area which had been designed (and lived in) by an architect who was a student and colleague of Frank Lloyd Wright. I wish I could remember the name of the house, as I'm having no luck finding picture of it on Google, but it was really something. The lower level was built into the side of a hill and consisted of a 6 car garage and a sort of rec room. The upper level was really something- the perimeter was almost entirely glass, and it was extremely minimalist. One whole end of the house (about 60% of the total floorspace) was a single large room that was sort of Brady Bunch meets. Dr. Evil's lair. The other end was all of the bedrooms and the two bathrooms, and again, almost totally glass. A large, covered wooden deck ran around 3/4 of the house at the upper level.

Downsides: single-glazed windows meant it cost more to heat in winter than the GDP of Liberia, and if I recall correctly, there were no closets.


Damn, I wish I had a picture of that house... Conceptually, it looked somewhat like the Boulter House:

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There are still a few applications where wired Ethernet connectivity is necessary.

OK fine then true dat.. Applications: Video, audio editing! High performance computing! Large data transfers! Areas with RF interference! More secure communications.

If wired then how about RJ45 jacks with Cat6 in the walls with a nice 10GigE network infrastructure that supports FCOE? I say RJ45 not optical fiber for household cable durability. And yes, 10GigE over copper will work. I'm not sure the switches that support FCOE and 10GigE have copper modules though :| Unfortunately little of my IT knowledge applies to automotive mechanical work.

Same with my audio engineering knowledge. But, Joe, I don't know if you saw the recent pics in my build thread; I wired my new coils with Canare foil sheath star quad L-4E6AT
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OK fine then true dat.. Applications: Video, audio editing! High performance computing! Large data transfers! Areas with RF interference!
... Areas where the "walls" are made out of 3/8" thick steel plate. Areas where you have a couple of thousand tourists roaming around, some of whom undoubtedly brought laptops / tablets / netbooks / smartphones, and you really don't want them ******* with your data. Areas where you have more separate networks in one room than there are channels allocated to the whole 802.11 scheme. Applications where you are dealing with pieces of equipment which are not PCs and which are equipped with 10/100 ethernet jacks.



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If wired then how about RJ45 jacks with Cat6 in the walls with a nice 10GigE network infrastructure that supports FCOE?
Back in 2003, I built a new house in Maineville, OH. Ok, I didn't literally build it, I hired a GC to build it. But I did do all of the electrical and datacom work myself.

Rather than lock myself into any particular wiring scheme, I simply installed conduit. Since this was a single-story house with a basement it was quite easy; I simply installed a low-voltage ring in pretty much every single wall (except in the bathrooms), and then stubbed a piece of 3/4" conduit from said box through the floor stud and down into the basement.

I did install actual wire not in conduit for the surround speakers in the living room, as the nature of speaker wiring hasn't changed much in the last century, but that was the only permanently-installed cable (other than mains power, the doorbell and the thermostat) in the house.

For a multi-story home, or a home with no basement, it's only slightly harder. Just like a commercial building, you distribute pull-boxes at strategic locations and hub all of the local conduits to those boxes, with larger-diameter conduit joining the boxes to each other.
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Btw, if you live in a crowded area, there are more access points than the 13 allocated channels. And trust me, that, is a problem.
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http://cushdesignstudio.blogspot.com...ie-bunker.html

I want a house that bad *** one day. I love simplistic design, and stone/concrete. So this is right up my alley.

I pray for a zombie outbreak every day.



It's never the zombies that would be the problem. If you get a place like that you should take great effort to make sure the surrounding population is unaware of it. Doesn't look too difficult to smoke the occupants of that place out. When the **** goes down your neighbors are you greatest threat.

I like dopplerbadgers idea of a converted missle silo. Most of the vertical ones have their ventilation issues figured out. They are also pretty well hidden.
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http://www.missilebases.com/properties

Prices have gone up a lot in the past ten years.
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I want that Titan site.
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Having spent 10 months in a military underground banker, I'm not sure its for everyone. I had no problem but I've seen several people crack.
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Back in 2003, I built a new house in Maineville, OH. Ok, I didn't literally build it, I hired a GC to build it. But I did do all of the electrical and datacom work myself.

Rather than lock myself into any particular wiring scheme, I simply installed conduit. Since this was a single-story house with a basement it was quite easy; I simply installed a low-voltage ring in pretty much every single wall (except in the bathrooms), and then stubbed a piece of 3/4" conduit from said box through the floor stud and down into the basement.

I did install actual wire not in conduit for the surround speakers in the living room, as the nature of speaker wiring hasn't changed much in the last century, but that was the only permanently-installed cable (other than mains power, the doorbell and the thermostat) in the house.

For a multi-story home, or a home with no basement, it's only slightly harder. Just like a commercial building, you distribute pull-boxes at strategic locations and hub all of the local conduits to those boxes, with larger-diameter conduit joining the boxes to each other.
One day when I build a house, I plan to do something like this. Future proof it and make it easy to upgrade using conduit. My mom recently built on a room to her house and I took it upon myself to do something like this to her house. Ran conduit for her home theater in that room, and did some networking for the house running cat5 to most rooms and installing plates.
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Having spent 10 months in a military underground banker, I'm not sure its for everyone. I had no problem but I've seen several people crack.
I already live in a bunker. I hate sunlight it seems. I keep my dark blinds and curtains drawn in the day, and am out and about on a night schedule. A night walker.
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Having spent 10 months in a military underground banker, I'm not sure its for everyone. I had no problem but I've seen several people crack.
Most medical practitioners would advise you to seek treatment for priapism.
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One day when I build a house, I plan to do something like this. Future proof it and make it easy to upgrade using conduit.
It really is the way to go, and it's not that hard to do.

Honestly, I'm surprised that with all of the various regulations and paranoae that we live with, it's still legal to wire a house by using nails and staples to hang plastic-insulated wire to wooden studs. This seems so 19'th century to me that's it's almost unfathomable. Granted, you don't actually hear of that many houses burning to the ground as a result of faulty electrical wiring these days, but I still can't see why we don't require all electrical cabling to be in conduit for residential applications the same way we do for commercial applications.
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It really is the way to go, and it's not that hard to do.

Honestly, I'm surprised that with all of the various regulations and paranoae that we live with, it's still legal to wire a house by using nails and staples to hang plastic-insulated wire to wooden studs. This seems so 19'th century to me that's it's almost unfathomable. Granted, you don't actually hear of that many houses burning to the ground as a result of faulty electrical wiring these days, but I still can't see why we don't require all electrical cabling to be in conduit for residential applications the same way we do for commercial applications.
Should be regulation. Especially seeing some of the dumb asses who are electricians, and how careless they can be when hanging wire. I've found a few wires stapled to studs in my time (through the jacket), thankfully before connecting utilities to the house.
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Most medical practitioners would advise you to seek treatment for priapism.
Are you kidding me??? The girls love it!
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I already live in a bunker. I hate sunlight it seems. I keep my dark blinds and curtains drawn in the day, and am out and about on a night schedule. A night walker.
Are you a ginger?
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