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Old 03-01-2010, 03:13 PM   #21
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Aww ****, you fell for the "pick your first duty station" scam huh? I love the military but you can pretty much forget anything they "promised" you that you mentioned in your original post. Are you married? If not you won't be getting **** for a check or living anywhere other than a freakin 6X2X2 hole in a boat.

Have fun. How long did you sign up for if that wasn't already mentioned (I admit I haven't read most of this thread)

EDIT: Just read the "I'll marry my GF and they'll cover my house" thing, good luck with that, I don't recommend getting married for a while, I've seen plenty of people who got married right before leaving for basic or even while in AIT (Army version of whatever they call your job training after basic) and got royally fucked over by her/the Army/or both.
you dont have issues at all... military leave a bad taste in your mouth? Jesus...
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military leave a bad taste in your mouth?
That's what she said.
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If this makes you feel any better, the day you are leaving for basic (20100920) is the day after I get out of the Air Force.

So while ur at basic crying ur eyes out, i'll be free.
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2010 Military Pay Chart
hate to burst your bubble but the money the guy talked about probly isnt near as much as you think it is.
i dont think you checked the right rank. i would be over 3 years at e6 pay grad then two years e7 pay grade by the time i finish my first 8 years. which is around what i said it would be.

then i will be going up to e8 Cheif petty officer Eli Jean. mad bank son

i think you checked e1 to come up with less than half even though im already at e3, which is in my contract.the location is in my contract as well. and if my spouse doesnt get to come along then **** it she can be a stay at home mom. i dont exactly mind.

and ive heard that ac's have a high suicide rate. i know the job responsibilities are going to be hard. ive been through some really challenging times in my life and i deff. could handle this. **** if i really dont like it ill go to officer schooling and become a warrant officer. check the w1 pay grade after 4 years


oh, did i forget the resignin bonuses? ill be pretty much set.
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you dont have issues at all... military leave a bad taste in your mouth? Jesus...
Nope, I love the military, plannign on being in for 20+, getting my commission through West Point (leaving Germany for NY in late June.) I just hate the lies recruiters spit out, I knew what I was getting myself into and didn't take any of the crap from them, told me to give it to me straight and not BS me because they didn't need to sell me the military, I wanted in.

Thanks for playing though ******.
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Congrats! Can we call you semen 'er I mean Seaman?
i knew id hear that joke at some point in this thread lolo

actually im a seaman recruit

anyways, if i ever hear that the US is gonna invade North korea, i wanna be the first to send our birds in the sky to ram our nukes straight up that idiots cocky *** mouth. amiriteoramirite?

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Have fun. How long did you sign up for if that wasn't already mentioned (I admit I haven't read most of this thread)
8 years minimum for the navy these days. like you i wanted in right when i got there. i told them that and this dudes really pushing for me, like everything i thought would be a concern he told me if it doesnt concern your health as of now its really not important. he signed me up for pretty much every advancement option he could think of. he was really impressed with my asvab score. lol i thought i could do better

wether i say i smoked weed or not isnt a problem. theres no way they will find out unless i tell them, or somebody that will tell somebody. as of right now, that part of my life is nonexistent... except maybe in the internets. (reitterating the fact that google can suck my dick)

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i dont think you checked the right rank. i would be over 3 years at e6 pay grad then two years e7 pay grade by the time i finish my first 8 years. which is around what i said it would be.

then i will be going up to e8 Cheif petty officer Eli Jean. mad bank son

i think you checked e1 to come up with less than half even though im already at e3, which is in my contract.the location is in my contract as well. and if my spouse doesnt get to come along then **** it she can be a stay at home mom. i dont exactly mind.

and ive heard that ac's have a high suicide rate. i know the job responsibilities are going to be hard. ive been through some really challenging times in my life and i deff. could handle this. **** if i really dont like it ill go to officer schooling and become a warrant officer. check the w1 pay grade after 4 years


oh, did i forget the resignin bonuses? ill be pretty much set.
E7 in 8 years? possible, but very very unlikely, especially not in a job like Air Traffic Control. I wish you luck though, I hope you enjoy the Military as much as I do, you just need to start thinking more realistically or you're going to be one of the guys that hates it and ends up going AWOL.
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Nope, I love the military, plannign on being in for 20+, getting my commission through West Point (leaving Germany for NY in late June.) I just hate the lies recruiters spit out, I knew what I was getting myself into and didn't take any of the crap from them, told me to give it to me straight and not BS me because they didn't need to sell me the military, I wanted in.

Thanks for playing though ******.
well good for you man, I hope your career is full of *** and name taking! I got 4 more years and I am singing up again!



As for you OP, KP is right about the recruiters though, they make perfect door to door sales men, because they act friendly as all hell. You do realize it not just years you are in for promotion, but what you qualify for and training standards you have to keep up with. Its not that easy and your going to find out real fast. Alot of people fall for the money lies, and thats where they end up getting burned. I was "told" by my recruiter once that I will be seing my bonus paycheck right when I get out of tech school, but I didnt see it until an year later. But I didnt let them get to me, I went in and knew what I got on the ASVAB, and chose my career. They wanted and tried to sneak me into UXO Disposal and I said **** no. But still, good luck.


EDIT: Oh and please tell me you didnt converse with the certain retards at MEPS about how your going to kick *** when you are in the lounge. Please for the sake of God you didnt. They always, ALWAYS get burned. Period. I saw this one douche at MEPS about how he is going to destroy as many towel heads as there are by being a USAF Combat Controller... found him in Kuwait as TMO. HA!
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E7 in 8 years? possible, but very very unlikely, especially not in a job like Air Traffic Control. I wish you luck though, I hope you enjoy the Military as much as I do, you just need to start thinking more realistically or you're going to be one of the guys that hates it and ends up going AWOL.
well all the **** hes been saying is very possible. as long as i keep doing what i do best, i should be fine. basic wont be hard for me. i got several months, a gym membership, and whey protien. ill be in better shape then i was after football. i do my pushups and 100 situps daily before going to the gym, where i run 1.5 miles to start, lift weights, use the ab machines, run again, do some squats, bench press, then last mile run. i usually finish my workout in less than 2 hours. go through 3 bottles of water. overkill maybe?

oh and they tried sending me to hawaii this month for sub radar. i said im stickin to my contract. i made sure he knows that everything on that contract goes where it should go. im not taking any offer but the one me and my job liason picked out. thats final!!

maybe i might deviate to be a navy seal at some point. who knows.

lol noo i just stayed quiet and no'ed them to death. didnt talk to nobody except my roomate at that hotel waiting to go to meps, i was pretty bummed the **** out that there werent any hot chicks.

lol there was this one skinny *** blonde chick going to the marines. i loled
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Ok, so do we start a bet of how long it takes -Banks- to commit suicide now or later?? Just putting it out there
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well all the **** hes been saying is very possible. as long as i keep doing what i do best, i should be fine. basic wont be hard for me. i got several months, a gym membership, and whey protien. ill be in better shape then i was after football. i do my pushups and 100 situps daily before going to the gym, where i run 1.5 miles to start, lift weights, use the ab machines, run again, do some squats, bench press, then last mile run. i usually finish my workout in less than 2 hours. go through 3 bottles of water. overkill maybe?

lol noo i just stayed quiet and no'ed them to death. didnt talk to nobody except my roomate at that hotel waiting to go to meps, i was pretty bummed the **** out that there werent any hot chicks.

lol there was this one skinny *** blonde chick going to the marines. i loled

Yea you're pretty much fucked. Eventually (hopefully) you will learn that the military is about 80% mental and only about 20% physical (basic is even more so mental over physical.) You're gonna be one of those PT beasts who breaks down crying the second week when you're getting the eer living **** smoked out of you and want to go home.

Ok I'm done ******* with your emotions now
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well all the **** hes been saying is very possible. as long as i keep doing what i do best, i should be fine. basic wont be hard for me. i got several months, a gym membership, and whey protien. ill be in better shape then i was after football. i do my pushups and 100 situps daily before going to the gym, where i run 1.5 miles to start, lift weights, use the ab machines, run again, do some squats, bench press, then last mile run. i usually finish my workout in less than 2 hours. go through 3 bottles of water. overkill maybe?

lol noo i just stayed quiet and no'ed them to death. didnt talk to nobody except my roomate at that hotel waiting to go to meps, i was pretty bummed the **** out that there werent any hot chicks.

lol there was this one skinny *** blonde chick going to the marines. i loled

Your going downhill already. Please stop for the sake of your dignaty. Its not about you, and your going to see that. Keep this attitude the military will chew you up and spit you out.


Fyi: hot chicks are in the air force, marine chicks arent people to mess with.

I dare you to brag to her.


EDIT: And her.
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Yea you're pretty much fucked. Eventually (hopefully) you will learn that the military is about 80% mental and only about 20% physical (basic is even more so mental over physical.) You're gonna be one of those PT beasts who breaks down crying the second week when you're getting the eer living **** smoked out of you and want to go home.

Ok I'm done ******* with your emotions now
you beat me man, by three minutes. **** you.
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Fyi: hot chicks are in the air force, marine chicks arent people to mess with.
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Don't **** with Marine chicks in any way, do you know how fucked up a chick has to be in the head to sign a Contract with the Marines? Also, stay away from Army chicks if you're ever in the position to be around them, don't ask why, just know you're doing the right hting by staying away. If you must have a military girl..AF all the way.

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you beat me man, by three minutes. **** you.
I'm just good like that, what can I say? Go Army!! LOL.
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she was skinny as rails!! it was awful. shes gonna get the absolute **** kicked outta her. no muscles. granted she probably could do 200 pushups seeing how ungodly skinny she was.

the only reason why im doing such a strenuous weight lifting ritual is because im in such bad shape. the way i write things and how i sound when talking are way different, i know what im getting into but not exactly how? if that makes sense. but im not scared. i dont think i could be a marine by any means, ive seen boot camp videos, theyre ****** baad.

but yea ive ive seen a few seamen in the naval office and they seem practically normal people, no thousand mile stares or anything.. i think the navy is all about looks and job duties really. my grandmothers been saying theres nobody shaper dressing than a navy seaman. i feel confident, im a good dresser
oh and id be the third person in my family in the navy. 4th in the military.
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she was skinny as rails!! it was awful. shes gonna get the absolute **** kicked outta her. no muscles. granted she probably could do 200 pushups seeing how ungodly skinny she was.

the only reason why im doing such a strenuous weight lifting ritual is because im in such bad shape. the way i write things and how i sound when talking are way different, i know what im getting into but not exactly how? if that makes sense. but im not scared. i dont think i could be a marine by any means. and looking at the people in the navy i see, they're not that different from me. i feel confident.
Confidence is good, cockiness is going to get your *** kicked in basic. Military is all about working together and being able to co-exist with anybody in any situation. Personal achievements (including the physical ****) is great, but you're not going to make E7 in 8 years on that alone.

Get your head in check and start studying your ****, no some Navy history, learn any General orders, creeds, whatever the Navy has because they'll be drilling that **** into your head all through basic. The PT will come in time, not saying don't try to get yourself in shape, but believe me they're going to get you where they want you int he 6-8-9 weeks whatever Navy Basic is now.

DI's Drill Sgt's, whatever the hell the Navy has.....they're gonna **** your head hardcore when you get there and there's nothing you can do about it, just be far enough ahead of the curve that you can make it through without offing yourslef or somebody else.

EDIT: FTR, I'm 125lbs soaking wet at 5'9 and I've been in the Army for almost a year and a half, earned the Expert Infantry Badge (even though I'm not infantry by a long shot, look that **** up, not a cake walk) score 290-300 on every PT test, earned two Army Achievment Medals and I'm getting ready to go to West Point, and have gone from E1 to E4 (hit a wall with Rank b/c my MOS sucks for promoting people, which is why I'm getting my commission), if you think someone's size is any measure of their current or future success in the military, get that **** out of your head now or go **** yourself.
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Don't **** with Marine chicks in any way, do you know how fucked up a chick has to be in the head to sign a Contract with the Marines? Also, stay away from Army chicks if you're ever in the position to be around them, don't ask why, just know you're doing the right hting by staying away. If you must have a military girl..AF all the way.



I'm just good like that, what can I say? Go Army!! LOL.

this army chick from puerto rico was flirtin with me while she went over my contract. should i be worried? she was a lil shorter than me, like 6'1". pretty damn tall. but mad cute.


kplafin, what are some things NOT to do in basic? should i possibly get the idea out of my head to attempt anything with the navy chicks that sleep only 5 feet away from me. lol jk

btw i really hope you guys arent thinking im like that fat dude in full metal jacket. my head is a lot stronger than that: i had a strict hatian parent armed with a belt. lets just say i had some seat time in people yelling at my face.
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Don't **** with Marine chicks in any way, do you know how fucked up a chick has to be in the head to sign a Contract with the Marines? Also, stay away from Army chicks if you're ever in the position to be around them, don't ask why, just know you're doing the right hting by staying away. If you must have a military girl..AF all the way.



I'm just good like that, what can I say? Go Army!! LOL.
yeah yeah just keep your *** at the security check point and let me load your humvees on the C17's... all we need is some retard not paying attention to spotting signals and down another bird from damage to the loading ramp.

Ill see you on night watch. Select Armament for the win! not.
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id also like to note that i do better work with others. if im in a group and the others are staring at the ceiling blank, i initiate.
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This is the first military conversation I think I've ever seen where someone brags about military pay. No offense, but pay isn't exactly why people generally stay in the military. If pay is your concern, you should be a contractor.

As for "buying a house and setting up shop" in japan, I'd just save your money. It sounds like you've made some shitty decisions in the past, just take it slow and build a nest egg. Oh and don't get any girls preggo. No really.
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