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Old 03-01-2010, 04:31 PM   #41
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maybe i might deviate to be a navy seal at some point.
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i dont think i could be a marine by any means, ive seen boot camp videos, theyre ****** baad.
Anyone else confused here?
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Old 03-01-2010, 04:33 PM   #42
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No idea what you're talking about, clearly being a Seal is easier than being a freakin Jarhead Grunt.
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Old 03-01-2010, 05:02 PM   #43
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This is exactly like Anthony Swofford except without the ability to write.
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Old 03-01-2010, 05:03 PM   #44
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Air Traffic Controller, I dont know about navy, but here in the USAF its a high suicide risk. They get mental checks routinely. Good luck man, and dont break in basic.
My grandfather was ATC and he at one point was suicidal if I recall correctly. Obviously he didn't kill himself though, I'm here. For sure a stressful job.
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Old 03-01-2010, 05:26 PM   #45
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navy seals are more reconnisance missions. marines do heavy work. seals go through more training, i dont think its much harder, more complex if anything i m educated o
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pffft if you think they are bad *** search Combat Controller.
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Yeah, the Seals just call it "Hell Week" to be cute.
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Old 03-01-2010, 06:11 PM   #48
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Yeah, the Seals just call it "Hell Week" to be cute.
That's what I was thinking...
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Old 03-01-2010, 06:33 PM   #49
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navy seals are more reconnisance missions. marines do heavy work. seals go through more training, i dont think its much harder, more complex if anything i m educated o
You know not what you say...

FWIW, I'm an active duty Sergeant in the Army, almost 5 years in, and you are dreeeeeaaammmiiinngg if you think promotion is as easy as you think it is. E1-E4, sure, just be in the right place, right time, right uniform. Everything changes when it's time to get into the NCO ranks. (and yes, I know the Navy and USMC E4s are technically NCOs). If you're thinking about spending your E8 pay and you haven't even shipped yet... Jesus man.

I still want you to explain where you're getting 3k EOM pay every two weeks from.
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Old 03-01-2010, 07:24 PM   #50
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Im former Navy, good luck to you. You are in for a serious reality check. Guaranteed duty station before boot camp? nice. Assuming you even make it through ATC school.
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Old 03-01-2010, 09:10 PM   #51
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navy seals are more reconnisance missions. marines do heavy work. seals go through more training, i dont think its much harder, more complex if anything i m educated o
ok banks im former navy gunners mate served in the first gulf war.
so far everything you have posted you have no ******* clue what you have gotten yourself into. get your ******* **** together when your on a ship your fuckups can cost many people there lives.
who ever told you your going right to the reagan is full of **** they don't have a slot for you yet you'll find out where your going after air traffic controll school. boot camp is alot of mermory most important thing is dc fire fighting everyone on board a ship is a FIRE FIGHTER FIRST!!!!!then your rate second.e7 in three years your dreaming thats a chief petty officer thats about 8 years clean service knowing your **** and clean evals.

no getting drunk and arrested at a turkish whorehouse ask me how i know.
you will be stationed on a ship period it will not stay in port long. so no you won't have an apartment. youll have a bunk and a locker and you will live out of that beds are stack three high.

its crowded besides talking on here find a navy forum talk to them get the facts straight your going in as an airdale lots of deck time very dangerous work. if you have any questions ask me i do my best to get you an answer.

last thing seals are ******* insane dedicated work horses you have to go through whatever rate you have after 18 months you can try for seals.

if your say to a seal hes about the same as a marine his gonna damn near kill you and no one and i mean no one is going to step in to help you and brass will look the other way when they write the report how you slipped and fell down the stairs.

and out at sea in the navy we fight on a reg basis nothing better to do ask you recruiter what a pink belly is.
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Old 03-01-2010, 09:23 PM   #52
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not to be putting more salt in the wound... but this is light commentary for what you're about to get... get used to it. Welcome to the Department of Defense, and the US Military, you may leave your personal and egotistical baggage here, or you can have it ripped from you in the first week of basic.
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Old 03-01-2010, 09:34 PM   #53
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wouldn't trade my navy days for nothing. been all over the world. got my blue nose and shell back certificates did 2 med cruises 3 north atlantics caribbean several times. nothing in my life has ever come close to being out on 3inch fity mounts middles of the night watching the ocean go by and seeing all the stars its truely amazing!!!!! i was young fresh out of school and had a blast. i went in broke and an e1 came out broke and an e4 petty officer third class. but had a hell of alot of fun. theres alot of **** to put up with and it all rolls down hill.
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OP, Congrats. Just remember don't take everything the military tells you for granted. Get it in writing, and make sure you get names of who promised what, when and where. Save every single piece of paper you are given, better get a big file cabinet, the military loves paper work. Don't marry your GF unless you love her and would marry her regardless. Don't get a huge house, the military will give you Basic Allowance for Housing, it's a set price for where you live. If you can find a place a bit cheaper than what you get for BAH you can pocket the rest.

Either way you have a lot to learn, if you have general questions there are a lot of us in the military on here, ask.

Edit: Wow didn't see this second page... and I guess I didn't read most of the first page seeing some of the quoted stuff. Anyways most of what I said above still holds true, but I'd like to add that attitude and appearance are huge in the military. Better start either being humble or appearing humble now and save yourself from hell later.
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Old 03-01-2010, 09:42 PM   #55
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Warning - civilian with a story - Warning

My dad told me all about how they promised him a tour in the Mediteranean. He did two on the Kitty Hawk and two in the Australian outback.

The moral of the story as he told it is that that promise means jack in war-time.
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i wanna see you hit e6 in 4-5 yrs thats doing something gl to you banks but ranks arent given out at mail call every week.
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Not saying I agree with moving up in ranks quick (experience takes time), but e6 in the Army can be done middle of 4 years to 5 years. Assuming you are in a MOS that has min points for e5 and e6 and you are squared away.
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Not saying I agree with moving up in ranks quick (experience takes time), but e6 in the Army can be done middle of 4 years to 5 years. Assuming you are in a MOS that has min points for e5 and e6 and you are squared away.
He's not exactly in an MOS (or w/e the Navy calls it) that's in desperate need for people, he's like the Field Artillery of the Navy (as far as #'s go) so I'm thinking promo points are up there. Then again I'm Army, not Navy so things may be a lot different, I don't know, but I wouldn't count on E7 in 8 years by any means.
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I wouldn't count on E7 at all - you have to be really squared away in the Navy to make Chief and the competition is crazy.

I'll be up for E6 in November, right at my 5 year mark FWIW. Not impossible in the Army, but from what I can tell it'd be a feat in the Navy.
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my gunners mate instructor was one square away **** took him 10 years to make chief. theres only so many openings and you compete for that promotion there could like for me 1400 people trying for 5 openings i could of cross rated into something else but didn't.
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